So, Legion of the Dead dropped onto consoles a day ago (August 24th), and I've spent roughly the past 3 hours or so, trudging through the LotD game mode. Just want to touch on a few things and provide some feedback that LotD desperately seems to need.

First and foremost: I have yet to successfully extract from even a single run of LotD! Not. Even. Close. I've played a total of 17 runs on public squads 2 on private. Not even once were we able to get two blocks in before being overrun by zombies. Simply put, the fact that these zeds sprint, command grab, and teleport players to death is a problem that needs to be addressed for balance-sake.

Second: The time limits need to go. Out of every instance of media involving zombie apocalypses, never once has "waste all your ammo and rush to extraction" been the answer to survival. Putting a time limit on LotD runs forces players to do exactly that. Stealth is ALWAYS key to survival, especially when it comes to urban zombie settings like densely packed cities.

Third and final (for the sake of this post): weather events, specifically the dense fog, hampers playability and provides no malus to the AI. Npcs and zombies alike can see me just fine, whereas my fov is reduced to 3 meters.

To summarize/feedback:

1) slow zombies down. Rotting, diseased flesh should not provide the muscular plasticity to allow for undead Usain Bolts.

2) for balance purposes, increase zombies awareness range, particularly for sound. A horde of slow moving zeds is far more formidable, imposing, and cinematic than zombified Sonic the Hedgehogs.

3) The number of times I watched aggro'd zombies teleport through obstacles, up stairs, and even through doors and gates was staggeringly high. Idk how to explain it ogherwise, but that's bad.

4) Remove the time limit completely. It's not fun. It's just bad game design.

5) Weather events need tweaking so that AI are affected just as players are. In its current state, it's just a hassle; and I'm far more likely to return to main menu than deal with dense fog again.

Hope this post didn't come off as too crass or anything - just wanted to leave feedback in hopes to see LotD in a more user friendly and playable state.

1) Adding Cinematics (cutscenes)

Intro = showing and highlights our operatives arrival at the beginning of the session.

Ending = showing and highlights our operatives extraction at the end of the session.


Ending Examples :
- a rescue chopper arrive to pickup the players.
- a rescue boat arrive to pick up the players (drone factory extraction or camden street)


2) Cars/vehicle

If a vehicle has 4 doors, the passenger seats in the back should be flexible and approachable from both sides , example: if the back seat on the left side is already occupied, then other players should be able to enter from the left door as well, and whoever occupied the left side back seat would automatically scooch over to the right seat. Currently if one side is occupied, the other player trying to get in must get in from the respective door with the available seat.



3) Revive animation

Currently there's no animation at all..

If you want neat example, check the assassin's creed unity multiplayer animation on how one player revive another.



4) shooting zombie legs would trip them, but they still can get up again.



5) a power up crate should contain 3 random abilities for a player to choose (choose one) instead of just one random ability.



6) faster hacking transition. Especially when controlling drones. Im having difficulties stunning a group of zombies with reporter drone's flash, the transition from the drone back to my operative is way too long that the stun duration is already up when i finally get into my operative.


7) Why dont we have taser stick (stun baton) ? Melee with electric point to tase people..

1. Various objectives
Running around collecting 1 type of supply is boring, we need more objectives. Collecting different kind of supplies that acts like separate currency to upgrade players.

Spare parts
For upgrading/crafting vehicles and weapons
Maybe add silencer for weapons or crafting unique melee, various drones, utilities like flashlight etc.

Drugs
To craft aid kit, temporary stat booster like zombie repellent, or sprint booster, etc.

Electronics
To craft upgrades for hacking and HUD, upgrades that can reveal hidden supplies on minimap, upgrades on optics that allow players to see better in the dark/heavy fog,etc.

Chemicals
To craft various explosives, flashbang, napalm, frags, IED, proximity IED, paint bomb, gas bomb, etc. Maybe ammo for flamethrower or fuel for vehicles.

Overall this would be like WD1 where aiden can collect these things for crafting purposes. But this time they are currencies.


2. Add a mechanics where players have limited inventory and can share among players.
Also more stuff carried in inventory = more weight and can slow down mobility. Say P1 have empty inventory while P2 have half full inventory bcos he carries more weaponry, so P1 can run faster and collect more stuff while P2 can protect P1 with weapons. This will create different roles and different experience for each players.


3. Full customization character
All the wardrobes we can get, this means MASKS too. And to get these new clothes we have to trade it with supplies. Certain clothes should have function as well, jackets to fend off cold, or heat, mask to survive gas/smoke, backpack to carry more stuff/weapons.


4. Various zombies
Zombies that can vomit poisonous Gas/smoke (aoe)
Zombies that can explode (we have it currently but its better if its a kamikaze one - running towards enemy and explode)
Zombies (Kamikaze) that can emit EMP when killed (temporarily disable hacks and vehicles)
Zombies that can use Zom-bee swarms
Zombies from living statue person that is undetected.
Zombies need to be able attack vehicles or pulling players from inside if the door is broken.



5. More enemies and "weather" modifiers.
Im thinking about adopting androids from WD1 digital trips in "Alone" and "conspiracy!" as new enemies in it. Maybe treat them as mini bosses, androids from "Alone" will have their "weather modifier" in their territory to be darker and hard to see, and its weakness is lights (flashlight, flashbang). While androids from "conspiracy!" have their "weather" to be filled with signal jammer and players cant use minimap and longer hacking cooldown until the androids killed. Also the android can explode and can only be killed when shooting weakpoints.

- Snowy weather that can cause cold effect (slow down mobility, decrease fuel efficiency on vehicles and drones, decrease damage from flamethrower or bombs).

- "City under fire" weather that change city appearance like from "dogs of war" mission in tac ops leader of the pack + more intense fire and smoke everywhere. This increase fuel efficiency and all damage from flame based attack and bombs, but constantly drain health on player and overheat/damage vehicles and drones faster.

The way i see the weather in Lotd as of now has no effect on gameplay except for heavy fog, so its useless.



6. Vehicles
Fully customizable, but needs to be crafted 1st with supplies, vehicles have 3 health bars (fuel, engine, body) fuel depleted = vehicle stop, engine broken = vehicle caught on fire (possibly explode), body total wrecked = zombies can attack/pull players out of vehicle. Vehicle types would be
1. Four wheels (cars/truck)
2. Two wheels (motorcycle)
3. Construction drone (limited weight capacity and fuel)
4. Tactical (Spidertank - WD1)


7. Factions
- Government (Albion)
- Kelley
- Dedsec

Change the extraction into safe houses, each safe houses owned by different factions, they have quest giver, (quest from kelley would be something like: sabotage/kill/steal from Albion/break a kelley leader from prison, while Albion would be something like reestablish Albion facility/kill kelley/protect officials, etc) finishing a quest from a faction increase the standing to that faction. Each faction have different items/upgrades/rewards/cosmetics to get from their safe houses.


Lastly, i dunno if this game mode still alive or not. But i guess i'll just leave these here.

First of all, i want to say how good it has been so far in the alpha stage; really smooth experience and overall, zombies in London is a crazy combination that i never expected. Loving the idea of that mystery box where you can pickup skills/guns to help you survive. Ive had at least 5hours in the mode and ive successfully completed it 5 times which seems about right in terms of difficulty.

There are three changes that i think would really improve this mode: straight away i knew there was a problem when the character you use is randomly generated - there should be a character selection similarly to the start of the game where you choose your very first operative. This would add some minor customisation as to how the character looks and what skills they already have. If not, then we should be able to use operatives from online mode - i assume something like this can be implemented if it hasnt been already?

A second feature that would improve the game is currency within the mission that you use to buy guns or skills; i know about the yellow coins, but they can only be spent before you start rather than during a mission which would be way cooler (much like cod zombies). This currency should be earned from killing the zombies, because at the moment, the only point of killing them is to clear the way so the player can get to the next package. I actually completed the whole mission and only killed 2 that were in my way. Thats kind of against the whole point of a zombie shooter mode. So if i were to gain a certain amount of points/money from kills, then it would be more fun and less empty.

thirdly, the zombies itself, the animations are really nice, but from my experience, they are too dumb and easy to avoid; like i said before, they are just in the way and i cant really think anything else about them.
Of course when theres a huge crowd of them covering a whole street, its almost impossible to get past them without a vehicle. But after playing it for 5 hours, there are ways which i have learnt to dodge them: they only respond to the distance you are from them so i keep well away from them to save ammo, vaulting over things seem to cancel out a zombie bite, being on top of cars and other high surfaces makes it too easy as they cant reach at all. If zombies could respond to sound, and climb things, it would be way better.

lastly i want to talk about what things are overpowered. I understand that cars have a lot more damage to them (even by hitting zombies) but it is still way to easy to get by when all you have to do is go slow to avoid crashing. Zombies should be able to smash the windows and bite you, especially when you are not moving. Cargo drones are stupidly overpowered, it prompted me at the start to buy it for 30 so i tried it out and managed to get all packages without losing health! in terms of guns, i think everything is quite balanced
im looking forward to the full release

Please consider these three things to improve Watch Dogs Legion of the Dead 🙂

No update in months. No activity on the new forums.

Why should I keep this 60GB "game" installed?