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  • Virtual-Chris
    Original poster 444 posts

    I have to say, although I wish somethings were better or different, the sheer amount of things to do in this game is amazing. I'm trying a new AR Negotiator's Dilemma build with Demolition Specialist, I just started exploring the DZ, I'm working on Season events and the manhunt, and I just discovered the Hunters and the benefits of getting the Ivory Keys. There's always something to look forward to in this game.

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  • Oatiecrumble
    277 posts

    Problem i think this game has is a lot of potential buyers out there think this game is too complicated and it puts them off, stats/talents etc etc.....BUT it is a very simple and straight forward game once you get to play it.

    I don't care what others say but for me it is without doubt the best game i have ever played and i have played a lot of games....it's unique.

  • LateNiteDelight
    330 posts
    I have to say, although I wish somethings were better or different, the sheer amount of things to do in this game is amazing. I'm trying a new AR Negotiator's Dilemma build with Demolition Specialist, I just started exploring the DZ, I'm working on Season events and the manhunt, and I just discovered the Hunters and the benefits of getting the Ivory Keys. There's always something to look forward to in this game.


    👍 I wish Breakpoint was this engaging [and had a large Urban area]. I put up with the sponge, for all the other great stuff.

  • Adrian-11
    555 posts

    @virtual-chris

    Here is a piece of unsolicited advice: get The Division 1 (the full package) when is on sale.
    While clunkier than D2 (many quality of life improvements made), it has a lot story and stuff to do... they are still running global events. And the procedurally generated Underground is awesome. Oh, and a HUGE dark zone to explore, almost the same size of LZ.
    IMO, D1 is unrivaled in terms of atmosphere and feel: the winter setting combined with long dark (really dark) nights and being in the middle of the civilization downfall... oh, man, D2 seems like a summer camp in comparison,

  • N3mB0t
    258 posts
    @virtual-chris

    Here is a piece of unsolicited advice: get The Division 1 (the full package) when is on sale.
    While clunkier than D2 (many quality of life improvements made), it has a lot story and stuff to do... they are still running global events. And the procedurally generated Underground is awesome. Oh, and a HUGE dark zone to explore, almost the same size of LZ.
    IMO, D1 is unrivaled in terms of atmosphere and feel: the winter setting combined with long dark (really dark) nights and being in the middle of the civilization downfall... oh, man, D2 seems like a summer camp in comparison,



    a few weeks ago i did installed and played D1 , made it to end game , tryed out all the DLCs and this was my conclusion , game is already unistalled.

    Played survival once to see what the fuss was all about , first time i tryed i made it to the extraction , killed the hunter and extracted , this got me thinking what all the fuss about this game mode was about , didnt had the slightest will to go back and repeat it , it was just an instant chore from the get go and repeating that wasnt appealing at all for me.

    sure the winter setting is very immersive , but it also gets boring fast as its always the same unlike TD 2 where the weather is much more dinamic.

    the streets are boring to walk on after a few hours playing , missions are so shooort they feel like D2 side missions , incursions feel like D2 missions .

    underground... i really tryed to push that to the max level at least ... but i got bored out of my mind , the summit might be repetitive but the underground is no better , even worst IMO , i made close to level 30 but couldnt do it anymore , the summit i finished countless times and i still can go in there and have a good time , the underground got too repetitive and felt like a real chore real fast.

    really liked to play it for the story but that was it , builds are uninspiring to say the least compared to D2 , gunplay is annoying in the lack of a better word , didnt like the way the guns felt or sounded , the AI is also a looot dumber and coming from D2 this was a also major turn off for me , all they do is charge at you with their infinite health , brings up memories hum?

    the bullet sponge is also much much worse , and i had a Nomad , D3FNC ,Striker and Predator classy builds almost maxed to know how "good" the game was supose to feel when you are well equiped, still wasnt having any fun.

    and dont even get me started on inventory management ... what a nightmare.

    just wanted to point out also this is a PVE player experience , i hardly stepped in the DZ or tryed any PVP modes , and i guess this is what makes the game live on.

    TLDR , D1 was a good game , keyword "WAS" , but D2 is better in every single aspect , props for MASSIVE on this , D2 might not be perfect but it sure was a big leap forward that retained the essency of D1.

  • Adrian-11
    555 posts

    @n3mb0t

    Hey! I agree with almost everything you said, and yes, D1 is clunkier in every respect. It is especially annoying if you played D2 first. As you said, D2 is a quite the evolution, and it is the better game. 👍

    On the subjective side of things, such as atmosphere and feel, we will agree to disagree. Also on Summit vs Underground. My experience may be different because I started with D1, and there is a certain sentimental value to it.

    But, even with your criticism, I think my suggestion stands... for $10 or less you get to enjoy a good story and more fascinating lore. But do expect frustrating clunkiness at times. Who knows, perhaps others will find something more to like.

    PS. I admire our profienciency at beating the game in a few weeks, and jealous you had the time for it 😀

  • dagrommit
    489 posts
    the bullet sponge is also much much worse


    This is why I wouldn't recommend Div 1 to the OP. He came from Ghost Recon, and spent a fair amount of time looking for a build to mitigate the relative sponginess of enemies in Div 2.

  • tcarlisle2012
    72 posts

    It really is. Most here will agree, as the haters have pretty much moved on. Which, BTW, is really the best thing for those that cannot enjoy this game for whatever reason.

    I want to caution people buying TD1 that its world is not anywhere near alive as in TD2. Yes, there are things to like about that game and if you are a Division fan it can be worth having. But people accustomed to TD2's open world are going to feel like TD1 is very, very dead. Please understand the differences and make an informed decision.

  • N3mB0t
    258 posts
    @n3mb0t

    Hey! I agree with almost everything you said, and yes, D1 is clunkier in every respect. It is especially annoying if you played D2 first. As you said, D2 is a quite the evolution, and it is the better game. 👍

    On the subjective side of things, such as atmosphere and feel, we will agree to disagree. Also on Summit vs Underground. My experience may be different because I started with D1, and there is a certain sentimental value to it.

    But, even with your criticism, I think my suggestion stands... for $10 or less you get to enjoy a good story and more fascinating lore. But do expect frustrating clunkiness at times. Who knows, perhaps others will find something more to like.

    PS. I admire our profienciency at beating the game in a few weeks, and jealous you had the time for it 😀



    although i layed out my mostly negative opinion i also feel its worth it to do at least a run through , especialy if you are like a me a D2 player.

    the game was free , ubisoft gifted it not that long ago , and the all DLCs only costed me 5$ , it was more than worth it , just not so much as some people insist in saying , D1 is not better than D2 , that is just nostalgia speaking , and i totaly get it.

    i did this when i had 15 days vacation, finished the game and did all i did in those 15 days , granted i didnt play anything else and i was lucky to have done it during an ongoing event so i was able to get all those classy sets i mentioned , due to my experience in D2 i had no problem realizing how i should build and optimize and thanks to that today i know how much better all that works in D2.

  • Virtual-Chris
    Original poster 444 posts
    the bullet sponge is also much much worse

    This is why I wouldn't recommend Div 1 to the OP. He came from Ghost Recon, and spent a fair amount of time looking for a build to mitigate the relative sponginess of enemies in Div 2.

    This is very true. I'm enjoying TD2 with a decent glass cannon build as it keeps it less spongy for me. It's hard to imagine that I will get bored with TD2 any time soon anyway. There's still two more seasons that I haven't done that will be repeating this year. Maybe after all that, I'd consider TD just to sample the immersive environment.

  • Adrian-11
    555 posts

    Funny I run into this "Why do I suck at D1 If I rock at D2?"
    https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/oo2nwn/why_do_i_suck_at_d1_if_i_rock_at_d2/

    Comments there make an interesting read, opinions are all over the place, and somehow they all have a piece of truth in them.
    There are also links to some very interesting videos about how the AI was programmed in both games.

  • RaciaIAdhesive-
    49 posts

    @oatiecrumble Hands down my favorite game. Love the environment, story/lure. It can seem overwhelming, but like you said, once you get to understand how gear and brand sets work, the game is a blast. Hands down has some of the smoothest shooting. Love the feel. Division 2 has been my main game since it's release. Very excited about the new content coming later this year.

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