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  • MILO11215
    Original poster 1 posts

    Hi Guys,

    I have been a division player since the start of the pandemic and believe you me I really played this game. (6k+ SHD) With the rise of NFTs and digital ownership I have been having some ideas and I don't believe Ubisoft is not taking notes. So perhaps it's worth putting a word in on the forum. Has anyone here had exposure to blockchain NFT gaming where you earn while playing? This is a whole new Genre in the gaming world.

    Imagine every drop in Division 2 once calibrated and optimised to its fullest could be minted as an NFT on the blockchain. And there was a market place where players could trade their optimised drops in exchange for digital currencies. An example of this is already in play - a game called Axie Infinity.

    But Axie isn't my type of game even though i could earn 100 Dollars a week playing it at the least or much more if I spend all my time on it. I want to see Division 2 NFT version thats plugged into the Metaverse. Wouldnt that be something?

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  • Adrian-11
    881 posts

    @milo11215

    No, it would NOT be something... Well, it would be something that I am not sure is desirable at all (read: hell NO!)
    For you to earn money, someone would need to buy your stuff (optimized or whatever), which translates in pay-to-win. This would kill any game in a few weeks (if anyone bothers with it at all).
    This already exists in the "black market" of gaming in the form of account selling. And it sucks.

  • Oatiecrumble
    482 posts

    No!!....Deffo No!! 😱

  • dagrommit
    894 posts

    Aside from NFT's being a scam in general, as well as terrible for the environment, allowing trading of loot for cash (digital or otherwise) is basically pay-to-win. It's a horrible idea.

    want to see Division 2 NFT version thats plugged into the Metaverse


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  • xcel30
    692 posts

    Oh HELL NO, i can see this being a worse trashfire than Diablo 3 auction house. As someone who has a friend who entered that market, he invested some money (thankfully not much) trying to see if he could make something back from it, people found a loophole overnight and the game had to froze everyone assets instead, no nobody can do anything because the gas price and frozen assets making any move in the game a big loss.

    Most of these things are planned on the long run as ways to make money not as game systems, the moment a AAA game pulls [censored] like this, you better be sure that gaming will become a bigger hell than it already is

  • tcarlisle2012
    174 posts

    To implement such a scheme would require Ubisoft to allow changes to one's account inventory via this 3rd party service, and that is not likely going to happen.

  • MelwinPhilip424
    1 posts
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  • dagrommit
    894 posts

    Prediction: we're going to see a bunch of one post accounts spamming this thread over time. Flag it as spam and hope the moderators are paying attention.

    To counter the shills, the reason people are talking up this "game" is because daily earnings are falling off a cliff, and they need new recruits to keep the ponzi scheme going:



    Also note how discussion around NFT gaming is never about playing the game for enjoyment, but about how to make money or recruit new suckers. As another tweet in that thread notes:

    Axie Infinity has extremely impressive retention, but is this retention for a game, or for what is effectively a job?


    [edit] I see the mods removed the spam post, thanks👍

  • TxDieselKid
    289 posts

    This game, and all others in the market as of today, should have NOTHING to do with NFT's.

    Zero. You will lose every player you have now. Period.

    NO ONE except investors/crooks wants NFT's in games today.

  • Adrian-11
    881 posts

    @txdieselkid

    It's just the crooks really, that may pose as investors...

  • xcel30
    692 posts

    I would have preferred if this thread just died quietly and kept that way

  • Gabriel.Knight
    129 posts
    Anything to do with facebook should be avoided.

    I thank you, dagrommit. I am feeling better now that I see some of the responses to this thread. There IS HOPE after all! 😄

  • Born2beSlick
    9 posts

    Good god, no. NFTs are a tiny market of a few thousand people who are building spam bot and sock puppet accounts to make the chatter louder than it is, so that they can then try to swindle money from gullible idiots by pretending something is valuable so they can money launder or scam money then cut and run.

    Any game that implements NFTs and Blockchain is an instant no go from me. Even a lot of Ubisoft developers don't like it despite being forced to experiment with it for Ghost Recon and Rabbids. Take your scam and scram.

  • Karabugs
    4 posts

    @milo11215 No, Axie is a Ponzi scheme. It is a sort of scam. Real Games is not money motivated game, Play to earn games are ruining the "gaming" world. Hell NO!

  • ko102crew
    10 posts

    And yet Ubisoft says it's the future of gaming and is going to end up forcing it down our throats. Even their devs don't want it, but when Ubisoft is paying the check....

    They already put that crap into Ghost Recon, even though the community was against it. Didn't matter, apparently Ubisoft knows better and thinks all of us don't understand how good they are.

    I see a storm brewing, NFT's will end up becoming the new loot boxes. Add in enough shiny trinkets and there's always going to be someone out there that will open their wallet.

  • dagrommit
    894 posts

    Here are some other observations minus the commentary that earned a temp ban:

    From the Financial Times: https://www.ft.com/content/46349496-790a-4223-8c65-d6a0bde897bc: (https://ft.com/content/46349496-790a-4223-8c65-d6a0bde897bc)



    In other words, the bubble is bursting. Hence you'll see a lot of people desperately trying to convince others to jump in so they can cash out.

    For example: https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7vpx8/analyzing-the-very-bizarre-sale-of-melania-trumps-dollar170000-nft: (https://vice.com/en/article/m7vpx8/analyzing-the-very-bizarre-sale-of-melania-trumps-dollar170000-nft)

    In other words, the winner of Melania Trump's NFT got the money from none other than the creator of the NFT itself, and an address linked to the NFT creator got the money back.


    It's also worth noting that the people who actually work on games at Ubisoft seem fully against NFT's, unlike their leadership:

    https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2022-02-14-ubisoft-staff-push-back-as-company-continues-to-big-up-blockchain

    "You know what else makes a lot of money? Making fun spectacular ground-breaking blockbusters. Why don't we focus on that instead?" one staff member wrote.


  • Gabriel.Knight
    129 posts

    @dagrommit I got temped too. Not sure that I actually care anymore. I had a couple of truly helpful posts removed. I actually just came back to see if it was still active or not.

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