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  • dagrommit
    894 posts
    @dagrommit yes but you can do a lot more in that game.


    So go play that instead.

    And ignore my point that in the division we could have more stuff to do if it looked less detailed. 😉


    We know what you want, the point is that it isn't what everyone else wants.

    Ahhh you are one of those people:


    Yes, unlike you, I recognize that the differences between a 2008 game and a 2019 game consist of more than a higher number of simplistic models.

    Screenshots?...nah, photo mode! (Drake meme)
    Most useless extra in the division 2.
    Only used it to see the time for the hunter puzzle.


    See, this is the problem - you think everyone else agrees with you. Even though that 99 page thread demonstrates otherwise.

    dagrommit: *ignores the point picks the words "can't do anything" and talks about open world activities*


    What point? That you want to play something that looks more like fortnite? We know this, so go bug the fortnite devs. If your idea is as popular as you think it is, they will surely listen to you seeing as they're always looking for new content ideas.

    (Point) if they make Division 3 less detailed we could have a fully working game with a lot more things to do.


    That's not how game development works. Lower quality visuals don't stop bugs - for example:



    Regardless, a Division 3 is unlikely to come out for a few years (at a minimum). By which time it'll be on current-gen and PC's only, thus allowing for even higher levels of detail 👍

  • AngryPandaNr1
    Original poster 59 posts
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  • xcel30
    794 posts

    @angrypandanr1 Why are you bringing up photo mode by yourself so much?

  • dagrommit
    894 posts
    So you say im the only one that wants more stuff to do in a new division?


    I am pointing out that your desire for a more cartoonish looking game is not supported by anyone in this thread.

    Bugs will always be there, but could be way less especially on the launch of a game.


    It's obvious you've never shipped any software, let alone a game. More systems interacting with each other means a higher probability of bugs. Classic examples of this include the Fallout games, hardly the exemplar of high-fidelity graphics for their time.

    Just didn't know there were girls like you here.


    Huh, how old are you again? 🍼

    Hahaha 99 pages long because 20 people keep sucking eachother off on how good photo mode is.


    There are 20x more people in that thread than have supported your desire for a reduction in quality of visuals.

    So your piece of abandoning last gen was just to be a massive t\/\/at...


    It's reality. A new game will take a few years to develop after Massive finish up on Avatar and Star Wars. Nobody is going to target last-gen consoles by then.



  • AngryPandaNr1
    Original poster 59 posts

    @dagrommit
    Well I looked around here the other day and saw a decent poll about the length of new missions, on should they be longer, shorter or the same.
    With 15 votes, so there aren't a lot of people here anyway.

    And the cartoonish stuff was said because you told me about the visuals of Division and fortnite.
    So If it would help the devs to make maps faster and more things for in the game, I wouldn't mind.
    The thread was about monthly updates like fortnite.
    Not change the game to fortnite.

    No i haven't, but since you have knowledge on this.
    How is it that Division 2 launched with bugs/glitches/errors?
    It's part 2 of a franchise, and we couldn't do proper damage with our guns and skills.

    Like I said there aren't that many people here anyway.
    And if 20 people wrote 99 pages about rhe photo mode, I was right about them.

    Can it be reality what you want but
    .I suggested something for a new game.
    .You talked about abandoning last gen.
    .I said well, then they could do less quality and later an update when most have current-gen.
    .Then you said they do current-gen anyway because it takes at least 3 years for a new game.

    So that abandoning the last gen [censored] wasn't even needed to say.
    That was you trying to be a [censored]
    Me coming with a solution for everyone.
    And then you turning it as if I said "a game for last gen" like the [censored] that you are

  • dagrommit
    894 posts

    I guess you didn't really mean it when you said "bye" 👀

    Well I looked around here the other day and saw a decent poll about the length of new missions, on should they be longer, shorter or the same.
    With 15 votes, so there aren't a lot of people here anyway.

    And this thread has had 154 views - yet nobody has piped up supporting your contention that visuals don't matter.

    And the cartoonish stuff was said because you told me about the visuals of Division and fortnite.
    So If it would help the devs to make maps faster and more things for in the game, I wouldn't mind.

    The funny thing is that current gen consoles can handle improved visuals and more complex mechanics. The issue is with previous gen consoles.

    The thread was about monthly updates like fortnite.
    Not change the game to fortnite.

    The economics of this was already explained to you. Could Ubi change their mind and decide to tell Massive to assign thousands of developers to this franchise? Sure, anything is possible. Is it likely they will? Doesn't seem like it - especially with Star Wars and Avatar on their plate.

    No i haven't, but since you have knowledge on this.
    How is it that Division 2 launched with bugs/glitches/errors?

    Because bugs exist in every game - see Cyberpunk as the most recent high-profile example, in addition to the ones mentioned earlier. Reducing the quality of graphics won't change that.

    Like I said there aren't that many people here anyway.
    And if 20 people wrote 99 pages about rhe photo mode, I was right about them.

    There are 74 people in that thread. Which is 74x more than have agreed with your contention about graphics not mattering.

    So that abandoning the last gen [censored] wasn't even needed to say.

    It is relevant because of the timeline required before a Division 3 is released (if it ever is).

    That was you trying to be a smarta$s

    Funny coming from someone who thinks "girl" is an insult, and claimed people in the photo thread were sucking each other off.

    Me coming with a solution for everyone.

    By everyone, you mean you. Nobody else has supported downgrading the visuals.

    And then you turning it as if I said "a game for last gen" like the t\w/at that you are.

    I can see you've read the terms of use 👀









  • AngryPandaNr1
    Original poster 59 posts

    @dagrommit I should be able to give a suggestion without people that have knowledge of coding/programming being condescending and just destroy it.

    It is funny that the current gen can handle it.
    My suggestion was for the current gen...
    You made it about the last gen, then the next gen and for some reason you mention last gen again.

    You did explain that.
    They are gonna do it with Heartlands I think.
    They don't have to start big, if it's successfully they will add more developers.

    They could also do it for pve if they stay with their franchise and not abandoning it.
    I mean I get the star wars and avatar games.
    But they could and should make Division their own star wars/avatar franchise.
    (They should strive for it)

    This is not a good comparison but I'm still doing it.
    Fortnite wasn't big from the start, they build it up.
    And when players left for apex or warzone they came with a free battle pass and more things to do (they even stole the respawn idea from apex)

    Division 2 got abandoned by the devs after they saw that players left.
    Instead of fixing it and apologise by giving the players something to come back for, they made the last episode (the Aaron Keener mission) part of a year 2 DLC just to stick it to us again.
    That's how you lose even more player base.

    If they kept it free with the same ending, year 2 dlc was bought by a lot more people.
    (Even if they had said: the Aaron Keener mission was supposed to be paid for but we made it free as an apology to our player base. People would have bought that excuse with open wallets and bought Warlords from day 1)

    Is cyberpunk a sequel or the first game?
    If it is the first game, they have that as an excuse.
    Division 1 launched with bugs and enemies being terminators from level 30.
    (I remember farming Russian consulate to get the First wave M1A by breaking the wall and only kill the boss *which took 4 players and almost all their ammo*)
    How is it that Division 2 (the second game) had bugs from launch as well *And terminators from level 2* ?
    As a company you wanna make sure part 2 doesn't have the same or worse errors as the first game right? That's what I meant.


    In my original post I don't even talk about graphics...
    You did by saying: they can't do it without abandoning the last gen.
    Then I talked about graphics. (As a solution, which wasnt the right solution)
    Then you said: last gen doesn't matter, Division 3 would come for current gen only because it takes at least 3 years to make.
    So if you didn't brought up abandoning last gen
    (Because they ain't gonna make part 3 for last gen.)
    We wouldn't even talk about graphics.

  • dagrommit
    894 posts
    I should be able to give a suggestion without people that have knowledge of coding/programming being condescending and just destroy it.


    You are free to make a suggestion, just as others are free to explain the constraints that make it unrealistic.

    It is funny that the current gen can handle it.


    It should not be a surprise given the current game runs on nine year old hardware. Newer hardware has more capabilities.

    Is cyberpunk a sequel or the first game?
    If it is the first game, they have that as an excuse.


    You forget that there have been multiple Fallout games, each one as bug infested as the others.

    How is it that Division 2 (the second game) had bugs from launch as well *And terminators from level 2* ?


    Let me put it this way - name any online game that hasn't needed multiple patches. Name any multi-player shooter (sequel or otherwise) that hasn't received various buffs or nerfs.

    Destiny 2? https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2021/06/03/here-are-all-the-ways-destiny-2-is-nerfing-stasis-today/: (https://forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2021/06/03/here-are-all-the-ways-destiny-2-is-nerfing-stasis-today)
    Outriders? https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2021/04/08/outriders-patch-notes-free-legendary-technomancer-and-trickster-nerfs/: (https://forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2021/04/08/outriders-patch-notes-free-legendary-technomancer-and-trickster-nerfs)
    CoD Warzone? https://www.gamesradar.com/warzone-buffs-and-nerfs-what-guns-got-nerfed/

    Point being, games are complex beasts, and balancing is not as easy as people like you seem to think. There are people on this very forum who still think this game is too hard, while others want legendary difficulty added to the open world.

    Not addressing the rest as you're just repeating yourself.

  • DutchLMB4ever
    365 posts

    @angrypandanr1 Just leave it man, come back when you have a new topic.
    And it does not matter how many people see it, as long as the right people see it.
    A friend of mine made a whole list of suggestions in the Div1 forum years ago, and only 2 people commented on it.
    1 of them was me a couple months ago. lol
    So basically only 1 person commented on it.
    BUT most of that list is in Div2 now.
    Keep posting ideas, you never know what the developers can do with it.

  • AngryPandaNr1
    Original poster 59 posts

    @Ubi-Woofer this is the second time I got a 1 day ban for this thread.
    Are you gonna ban me every couple weeks for one day, for a thread that's a month old?
    Or are you gonna look at everything I said and ban me for all those things in one go?
    Half work...but that's the standard of Ubisoft nowadays right 😉

  • xJdKxZomBiE
    9 posts

    To be honest? I'd gladly take a hit in graphical fidelity to have a more robust world with stuff to engage in and interact with with the pros of fortnite, like constant updates, big fixes, addons, etc.

    I play Fortnite but specifically only Save The World. To say my piece about fortnite is that I wish STW got the love that BR mode gets.

    Division 2 is a beautiful game, of which I recently found new admiration for with my One X and turning off game mode on my tv to further beautify the game. But. BUT. All that beauty and it's the same old game. Same missions. Same gear. Same old same old.

    If I had to drop a few bucks a month for a subscription service I'd be down. Do like Destiny with expansions, a new faction to fight, new gears, new missions, new locations and a season rank to achieve of 100 with unlocks along the way.

    I sorta agree with OP, maybe a bit more cartoony and a solid step off the deep end into fantasy might spice things up rather than trying to make some all encompassing realistic/arcade shooter. We have ultra detailed realistic weapons, armor, but yet enemies take magazines to down. We have tech that does exist IRL but nowhere in the scope of in game tech.

    Fantasy isn't a bad thing. Neither is realism. But marrying the two is a delicate balance that has too many variables to please everyone.

  • xcel30
    794 posts

    @xjdkxzombie I think the problem overall is ubi actually giving that much founding and making sure everything goes on track well, it's not really about cartoony graphics, it's about how absurdly big fortnite developtment budget, core team and everything around is. Honestly don't think anyone else can pull a fortnite ubisoft does appear to be shooting at all direction to see what sticks in terms of game genre and f2p, fast paced action shooter like XDefiant, surival and scavenging for heartlands, traditional squad based BR for the new ghost recon. As many other said feels like scrapping whatever they can with no focus no they might get lucky but don't expect a big game with actual long standing service, even siege feels like it's on it's last legs because they are trying very hard to reinvent everything from huds and scoreboards over fixing long standing issues of core game

  • davidhines1
    22 posts

    @angrypandanr1 destiny 2 moved to this. its called a 'live game' but its now dead for solo players like me, since there are no longer grand stories being told, like in destiny or in division 1 campaign. they went with seasons, but every season you get a tiny single player thing then its straight into the groovy 6 player content, with matchmaking.

    except if you get matchmade with a cheater, bungie ban everyone in the group who didnt understand someone was cheating and didnt exit the group or report. i cant tell cheaters from good players these days, since most of the cheaters arent as obvious as in the division 1 dark zone. and im too old now to be good enough to run with younger players. the reflexes just arent there.

    but thats the issue you will get with moving division 3 to a live game. yes, no more new game every few years. but no, no big storylines, no campaigns to play. just short quest into a cutscene using in game assets not rendered, and then into the mp content which is all there is.

    oh and you will be able to pay for character customisation items of course. not lootboxes if those are banned where you are, you can just buy an in game currency and purchase that glowy thing all your friends have that looks cool.

    destiny 2 isnt a fortnite clone, either. its still supposedly got a storyline, but you cant replay the story of course. because its a live game, nobody will ever experience the whole red war campaign. nobody will relive killing a worm god on mars (short campaign anyway) and most people blinked and missed the curse of osiris campaign, which actually grew on me over time. if you go to a live game model, my guess will be for the division: no campaigns ever again. you get seasons instead where you get a short cutscene and if you bought the season pass, earn rewards as you level up while doing the latest variant of a strike or raid content (mp 6 man challenge or something, like doing the skyscraper thing multiple times over the season until the bad guy somehow dies because bored watching, probably.)

    and then in a few months... next season. new cutscene. new boss. new variant of 6 player content to grind until somehow this makes the boss vulnerable and you kill them for another cutscene.

    and once a year, a dlc where a new boss, new maps and bosses (and 'vaulting of some older maps' meaning removing until cycled back in future) and new enemy types, maybe a new specialised weapon are introduced. plus balancing changes. and its treated like a season for actual gameplay, just you get a longer intro, two single player missions before meeting the unlikely ally, then back to the mp content grind until the new boss somehow becomes vulnerable...

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