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  • C4C-Markus-752
    Original poster 1 posts

    I noticed that after the update my 15 Million Health Shield gets absolutely shredded by explosions on PVE, RC drones, Grenades from the Warhounds and Mini-Tanks etc. are dealing a significantly higher amount of damage to it. A single warhound grenade takes off around 5 Million health on it while even the RC drones from the Black Tusk Operators take off about 1/4-1/3 of the shields health. Given the horrendous spam of those drones and even the Warhound grenades the shield now gets destroyed extremely fast in Legendary missions.

    Tested this out on Capitol hill and my Shield got absolutely negated on the rooftop part because of all the grenades. This wasn't the case in TU14.

    I guess some of the PVP multipliers somehow are attached to explosive damage? As far as I know shields where supposed to be untouched in PvE aside from the disorient effect after breaking. As it stands it's a huge nerf to shields and makes them pretty much useless at high tiered content even when maxed out. (As I said my Shield runs 15M Health in a 4-Piece Foundry and as I have no offense capability it's the main focus of my build.)

    Are there any official comments about it? It it a bug with the multipliers? Is this supposed to stay like that?

    Hopefully this will get resolved and shields will be able to withstand the explosions better again. They already hit your health behind your shield anyway so I don't know why they now also destroy it so easily.

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  • Ubi-Perseids
    Ubisoft Support Staff 1147 posts

    Hey @c4c-markus-752! Welcome to Discussions!

    I'm sorry to hear that you're seeing your shields are taking way more damage from the PVE explosions after TU15. This is the first time I am hearing about this issue, so I don't think there are any official comments about this yet. It might be a bug, so I would like us to look into this a bit more. To start with, please try going through these troubleshooting steps in our PC guide here: https://ubi.li/k8gWa. We just want to rule out anything that could be causing this issue.

    If the issue persists after trying those steps, it would be super helpful for us if you could get a video showing that the shields are taking a lot of damage from grenades, etc. You can upload that video to a website like YouTube and share it here so we can take a look. Thank you!

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  • Noksolis
    3 posts

    I can confirm as well. I’m a main Bulwark shield user in PVE and any explosion in game from grenades, drones, outcast vest runners completely one shot the shield no matter how much health it has left. Makes higher difficulties near unplayable.

  • Gniewna
    2 posts

    @ubi-perseids
    Also confirming this. As a main Bulwark shield tank in PvE my shield wasn instantly destroyed by grenades/explosions on heroic invasion missions. My Shield have 17 milion hp and its one shotted.

  • AngryPandaNr1
    98 posts

    @ubi-perseids
    My shield got destroyed at the end of the iron horse raid. When we stand in the cave my shield just gets destroyed, but before the update it could probably hold the cave situation twice in a row as my shield health was damaged for 50% back then.
    Are these secret nerfs in pve? Or pvp nerf accidentally implemented in pve?

  • Noksolis
    3 posts

    @ubi-perseids

    Filmed myself pulling an outcast bomber. It one shots my 6 blue core shield w/4pc foundry on impact. Hope this video helps, for us that run tank builds it completely ruins us PvE.

  • Ubi-Gizmo
    Ubisoft Support Staff 2297 posts

    Hey there @Noksolis, @Gniewna and @AngryPandaNr1, thank you for the further comments here. I completely understand your points and I see how this can ruin the PvE experience. I have gone ahead and forwarded all of this information over to our development team so that they can investigate it further. Once we have more information available, it will be posted below.

    @Noksolis - Thank you for the video here, that will greatly assist our teams!

    If any of you have any questions or run into any other issues, please do not hesitate to reach back out. 

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  • Mr._.Breeze
    1 posts

    @Ubi-Gizmo It's now 7/27 and not a single update on this. Shields are worthless against explosions. It's literally better to drop the shield eat the explosion with my body armor and then re-deploy it again. That is the most stupid thing I've ever seen. Like others say, 17m Bulwark and it's one-shotted by any heroic/legendary explosion, even fire bag weakpoints on Outcast grenade throwers. You've literally killed PVE tank builds and it's NOT COOL AT ALL! We get it that you wanted to nerf them in PVP but it completely ruins any all blue tank builds with PVE. Please fix this in one of the next updates. Maybe you can fix it along with the crashing bugs you have literally ignored for months maybe.

  • Ubi-TheBerry
    Ubisoft Support Staff 5454 posts

    Hello @Mr-_-Breeze ,

    Thank you for reaching out.

    This issue is still being investigated by the game's development team I'm afraid, so we don't have any further updates or a date available at this time.

    Should any updates be made available, we'll share them here.

    Apologies for the delay and inconvenience in the meantime and we greatly appreciate your patience while this is looked into!

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  • Noxious81
    1307 posts
    (...) Shields are worthless against explosions. (...)


    That's because they are ballistic shields. Tanks that want to withstand explosions better need to spec more into Explosive Resistance.

  • Ubi-WheelyDuck
    Ubisoft Support Staff 1096 posts

    Hey @Noxious81,

    Thank you for kindly taking the time out to share your knowledge and experience.

    If ever we can help in the future, just let us know as we will be happy to help.

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  • Noksolis
    3 posts

    Back for an update. Issue still remains to replay to earlier posts. This issue popped up after TU15's pvp changes to shields. Prior to the Bulwark shield never got one shotted by any explosion in the game. Explosion resistance does not affect this shield at all. It always applied to the armor and health of the agent which works as intended. I will post a video showing the shield being one shotted with over 70% explosion resistance. This never happened prior to the title update and I've never had to spec into explosion resistance to tank explosions I use bonus armor procs in my main build to mitigate that damage. I will continue to do some more research to help find a solution to the issue. I hope that it gets fixed in time for the new legendaries because it is a very annoying issue for PVE bulwark users. Thanks for keeping this issue on your radar.

  • SuspiciousPixel
    597 posts

    I very rarely play as Tank but have a 16 Million Bulwark Shield Health build that I sometimes play when I am unfortunate to be matched with unskilled players in Capitol Legendary. I thought I was trippin' when my Shield was getting destroyed by grenades from Dogs and drones as I could easily absorb damage from them with zero explosive resistance before. So thanks for confirming with videos that the devs have broken something recently. I will test with a 100% (if possible since we don't have exp resistant mods) Explosive Resistant build and confirm if it is broke.

  • Ubi-Froggard
    Ubisoft Support Staff 3664 posts

    Hey @Noksolis and @SuspiciousPixel

    Just to let you both know, I can only see the investigation is still open as we have been able to reproduce it ourselves, but we haven't got any word back from the dev team if this is actually intended for some reason, or that a fix is in the works, but we'll share any information here or in patch notes when we do.

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