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  • WrecK3rr
    Original poster 460 posts

    A message from Division 2 Team.
    Expertise Level Roll Back happening tomorrow.



    Also, here's a Chart to give you an idea of what Expertise Level will you be rolled back to tomorrow.

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  • x41x6Ex64x79
    27 posts
    A message from Division 2 Team.
    Expertise Level Roll Back happening tomorrow.


    Dear Mr Massive , regardless of errors in your expertise system.... Surely any permanent increase in damage or armour will affect the game Now... as I dont believe any rebalancing has been made to difficulties in this update.

    Legendaries are just a turkey shoot (raids are speed runs) and have been for a long time... So whilst the expertise system adds a new 'Keeners watch' in term of fresh new spin... Without any rebalancing (which defeats the whole super power benefit of grinding to boost your gear) the challenge is further diluted?

    Or did I miss the point?

  • xcel30
    982 posts

    @x41x6ex64x79 Well part of the last stream they did mention that they need to put more thought on how to handle difficulty from this point and onwards since every season will also add a couple of itmes and sets so it will naturally increase expertise and player strenght

  • x41x6Ex64x79
    27 posts
    @x41x6ex64x79 Well part of the last stream they did mention that they need to put more thought on how to handle difficulty from this point and onwards since every season will also add a couple of itmes and sets so it will naturally increase expertise and player strenght

    Hey, thanks... I must have missed it.
    Although, it does sound like balancing is a bit of an after thought. I guess that the experience of doing that is already learned with the WoNY watch, so it won't take long to resolve %£ (that's my emoji for infinite sarcasm).

  • Shin_velcro
    9 posts

    So is the issue you where getting 10 points for getting an item to proficient and it should have been only 1?

  • ArthurFriend
    178 posts
    So is the issue you where getting 10 points for getting an item to proficient and it should have been only 1?


    No. You were getting 2 XP for each proficiency rank instead of two when leveling up with kill-XP.

    By the way: That expertise level chart is nonsense. The expertise level gets defined by how much proficiency ranks you have accumulated on all gear, not by the number of items you are proficient with. If you for example need 200 points for the next expertise level you can either become proficient with 20 items (20 * 10 = 200) or gain two proficiency ranks on 100 different items (2 * 100 = 200).

  • echolecter
    369 posts

    @arthurfriend I think the chart was purely meant as indication but can be fixed easilly. Replace items with ranks, multiply all values by 10. But knowing how Massive does their calculations it probably isn't as straightforward as that.

  • ArthurFriend
    178 posts
    Replace items with ranks, multiply all values by 10.


    Yes, that would be more adequate. Although I don't know anymore whether you really needed 60 points for the first expertise level, 140 for level 2 and 200 from level 3 until 14. I can't really remember but I somehow was thinking of 80 proficiency ranks for level 1, 100 until level 5 or so and 200 from 6 to 15... I don't know. But the idea is the correct one!

  • WrecK3rr
    Original poster 460 posts

    @arthurfriend No that chart doesn't indicate ranks in the last column.

    It is just to give you an idea what expertise level you should be if you have a certain amount of items fully proficient.
    For example, from the new chart, if you have 10 items fully proficient, you should be expertise level 1.

    Here's an updated chart with more details on ranks.



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