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  • TORFINR
    366 posts

    @kerrypeng I also wanted to point out that there are no black nor asiatic vikings in the game. Ubisoft is clearly racist! It has to be changed!
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  • TideSing
    25 posts

    I am a Chinese Player. Because of that censored, I have refunded the game.
    I have per-ordered and looking forward to 10th Nov for a very long time.
    But I can't stand to play a game which is not complete. We don't need to follow Japanese rules.

  • TORFINR
    366 posts

    @tidesing I guess you have to explain here us CLEARLY what do you mean, cause most of the readers are from western countries and DO NOT UNDERSTAND what you're talking about (even if I may see what you're trying to express)
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  • TideSing
    25 posts

    @torfinr We don't need to follow Japanese rules.

  • TORFINR
    366 posts

    @tidesing Ok, so you mean that the version you're playing follows Japanese ethic and you want a more "western version", right?
    But are you sure that those decisions have nothing to do with the central Chinese government? (a real question, I dont know the restrictions made by China for that kind of things, nudity/torture)
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  • TideSing
    25 posts

    @torfinr I Sure,This has nothing to do with China

  • vigour45
    8 posts

    @torfinr This is caused by Ubisoft's current distribution policy within their system, there was no issue for Origins and Odyssey before as the Asian version and Asian language support on PS platform were bundled with the EU version with Japanese version seperated on its own. Asian players have got used to it for AC titles though the same issue happened to For Honor before. And this time even though they disclosed it for Japnaese players long before, the announcement was made for other Asian players only 3 days before the game release. This is clearly a betrayal to those players for forcing them to accept those censorship with little time to find an alternative.

    To answer your question, the game has never been offcially released on console in China mainland so that there has nothing to do with the cencorship on game content by the PRC government, the distribution of all console game in China mainland is operated independently with very pathetic numbers of games availble in the CN PS stores while the distribution in Hongkong follows an exceptional rule. Honestly, there is nothing racial here, but just a ridiculous problem that will ultimately hurt those fan of AC title who play the game on Playstation in Asia.

  • Aloninor
    94 posts

    @kerrypeng I fail to see the racism in this, please explain to people not familiar with the situation and why Ubisoft's decision is based on racism.

  • Silencer-UK
    16 posts

    @kerrypeng Is this to do with the Japan CERO rating?

    The adjustments includes:
    Eliminated unevenness on cut surfaces, adjusting it to be smooth.
    Fixed so that certain torture scenes where internal organs can be seen are mild.
    Fixed so that any beheaded faces are covered with a mask/helmet.
    Fixed so that topless women are clothed.
    This only applies to PS4 PS5 versions.

    Hardly a reason to call ubisoft racist and seeing as it only effect PS4/5 then just buy on PC or xbox. Simple solution really without throwing your toys out of the pram.

  • TORFINR
    366 posts

    "racist" has become the standard way to express that you disagree with something/someone
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  • Aloninor
    94 posts

    @torfinr
    Unfortunately way to often true - decreasing the actual severity of the word's meaning due to misuse.

  • Mwhita89
    24 posts

    I hear what you are saying but I don’t think it is Ubisoft’s doing. In North America we get games that come with a English, French, Spanish and Portuguese and content is generally based on the esrb’s of this region. In East Asia I’d expect there is something similar. The version of the game you get in Korea will be the same as China, Taiwan and etc. The real blame is on the restrictions set by the ESRB or age rating systems set by these countries governments. From what you are saying it seems that some of these countries are stricter than others and Ubisoft should create separate versions that are less censored for individual countries rather than creating a censored version that will be accepted by the whole region. This seems like something that is the fault of PlayStation for grouping all these countries together.

  • freezychan
    54 posts

    @aloninor Because the game version they released, forcing all eastern Asian ppl to follow a Japanese regulation. They treat all the players living in this area like they are living under Japanese law system, which means a country called Japan could represent all of them. Since Japan indeed colonized most of these areas during WWII, what other better name are you expecting we call them?

  • freezychan
    54 posts

    @mwhita89 No, in ACO &ACOD they used the standard Europe version with a Traditional Chinese translation in HongKong and Taiwan stores and it worked well. These 2 areas got their own rating system, law system, not the Japanese one. Only in this time Ubisoft suddenly choose to make an "east Asian bundle" along with Japanese version without any warning before most of players paid for their copies. If they included the Japanese version in this bundle, it must follow the regulation of Japan, they totally ignored players from other countries in this area.

  • Mwhita89
    24 posts

    @freezychan

    okay thanks for clearing that up

  • KppKerry
    Original poster 109 posts

    Till now, Ubisoft choose not to respond to any Asian player's questions, even though they have simple solutions, they decide to keep silence and keep selling this incomplete version of the game to Asian players...with more price.
    I don't feel their respect for us, even we have been supporting them for so long.

  • freezychan
    54 posts

    Nononono if this thing truly tangled with China (the mainland) then it will be more complex than it is now. I'm telling you what it would be like if so:

    Ubisoft and most of westerners has no idea about the true censorship.
    You know what, because of the story they are telling, a game like AC:V or any other games in AC or Watchdog series WILL NEVER BE OFFICIALLY ALLOWED to sell in China mainland, this is the true censorship. 
    Ubisoft was so lucky to have a thing called "market" in China because Chinese players love them, they defend their love in a way like don't ask then nobody tell. They just pay for the disc via small game dealers and play it secretly.

    If Chinese players got [censored] like they are totally ignored, some of them might take their revenge in a very socialism way: since it seems like in this time Ubisoft doesn't care that much about these ppl, they could nominate Ubi as, "a software company selling game copies promoting 'western values' illegally in socialism China", a proper reputation in the eye of Chinese government. 
    Yes, if you totally [censored] the Chinese players off, they could manage to do that easily. No need of collecting signatures over 100 thousand or some such, there is a report form, about any relating issues or activities which doesn't follow "the core of socialism values", lying in there on the website of Ministry of Industry and Information Technology of China. 

    Then there comes the real thing called censorship, not just no game to play for one time, there will be no Ubisoft in China anymore.
    Similar things actually happened before.

    Plus if ppl want, they also have other options helping Ubi establishing the reputation. Such as to exaggerat a little bit of their weird attitude towards the jurisdiction of Japanese authorities over other East Asian countries, who were suffered from Japan in WWII, in front of the angry, nationalistic public of China on their social media. 

    You can imagine their reaction, right?

    Furthermore, unfortunately I'm sure after I figured out all these ways to take the revenge, there will be more Chinese players now in rage be inspired. Think it carefully, the managers from Ubisoft, is this the price you wanna pay, is this the lose you can afford?
    If it is, then do nothing and don't release the patch.

  • vigour45
    8 posts

    @freezychan Well, you've overestimated the number of Chinese players who have been playing AC title on PlayStation. Ubisoft has long been operating their sales unit for the PC platform in China mainland and for those PC players, they dont care a [censored] about this issue. The distirbution of the PC game is currently protected by a WTO framework near a grey zone, if the notorious reporting is conducted out of self-cencorship upon the Ubisoft games, the one who report it will firstly be placed a bounty by his own people - those PC gamers. So, not much about China mainland in this case, more Asian console players in Hongkong, Taiwan, South Korea and Singapore are actaully affected by this obvious betrayal. They won't lose much if just mainland players got [censored] off and it is just not possible to have an easy fix before the release upon those have been made into physical. Anyway be realistic, go to customer support, accuse them for fraud in marketing in the Asian region, ask for refund and argue for providing Asian language support for the version in the PS store at other country, US, EU, AUS, etc. in the future and simply buy another uncensored copy. That's what I'm gonna do cuz i dont believe their will take the risk to fix the censored content in Asian version anyway.

  • freezychan
    54 posts

    @vigour45 Of course there's not many playstation players in China. BUT, since AC series is a non official thing either, just one report is enough, and you sure no one would do that after Ubi did what they did to us?
    In May 2020 the Chinese Playstation Store was forced to close just for one report.
    Are you sure if Ubi pushed these extremist to the edge, they wont turn themselves into suicide attacker? Like "since I cant play it then nobody in this country can, no mater on which platform".
    Look at what's happening in Paris and Vienna in reality.

  • vigour45
    8 posts

    @freezychan I doubt it if anyone would play suicide just for a game being censored and again no one wins from that reporting move, it's disgusting and wont hurt Ubisoft's business even a tiny little bit as there is nothing illegal here, gaming distribution on the PC platform is protected by agreements, all you can get is got turned againt by those PC gamers as well as those console gamers in China mainland. In short, no point for these threats, it will just put you at a awkward place as a normal hater, we just need a response, just go for a refund and play it on other platform or in English on PS for the moment and give them pressure to provide the language support for the other version if you insist playing it on PS.

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