16 Likes/62 Replies/824 ViewsMwhita89 24 posts
I hear what you are saying but I don’t think it is Ubisoft’s doing. In North America we get games that come with a English, French, Spanish and Portuguese and content is generally based on the esrb’s of this region. In East Asia I’d expect there is something similar. The version of the game you get in Korea will be the same as China, Taiwan and etc. The real blame is on the restrictions set by the ESRB or age rating systems set by these countries governments. From what you are saying it seems that some of these countries are stricter than others and Ubisoft should create separate versions that are less censored for individual countries rather than creating a censored version that will be accepted by the whole region. This seems like something that is the fault of PlayStation for grouping all these countries together.
@aloninor Because the game version they released, forcing all eastern Asian ppl to follow a Japanese regulation. They treat all the players living in this area like they are living under Japanese law system, which means a country called Japan could represent all of them. Since Japan indeed colonized most of these areas during WWII, what other better name are you expecting we call them?
@mwhita89 No, in ACO &ACOD they used the standard Europe version with a Traditional Chinese translation in HongKong and Taiwan stores and it worked well. These 2 areas got their own rating system, law system, not the Japanese one. Only in this time Ubisoft suddenly choose to make an "east Asian bundle" along with Japanese version without any warning before most of players paid for their copies. If they included the Japanese version in this bundle, it must follow the regulation of Japan, they totally ignored players from other countries in this area.
Original poster KppKerry 109 posts
Till now, Ubisoft choose not to respond to any Asian player's questions, even though they have simple solutions, they decide to keep silence and keep selling this incomplete version of the game to Asian players...with more price.
I don't feel their respect for us, even we have been supporting them for so long.
Nononono if this thing truly tangled with China (the mainland) then it will be more complex than it is now. I'm telling you what it would be like if so:
Ubisoft and most of westerners has no idea about the true censorship.
You know what, because of the story they are telling, a game like AC:V or any other games in AC or Watchdog series WILL NEVER BE OFFICIALLY ALLOWED to sell in China mainland, this is the true censorship.
Ubisoft was so lucky to have a thing called "market" in China because Chinese players love them, they defend their love in a way like don't ask then nobody tell. They just pay for the disc via small game dealers and play it secretly.
If Chinese players got [censored] like they are totally ignored, some of them might take their revenge in a very socialism way: since it seems like in this time Ubisoft doesn't care that much about these ppl, they could nominate Ubi as, "a software company selling game copies promoting 'western values' illegally in socialism China", a proper reputation in the eye of Chinese government.
Yes, if you totally [censored] the Chinese players off, they could manage to do that easily. No need of collecting signatures over 100 thousand or some such, there is a report form, about any relating issues or activities which doesn't follow "the core of socialism values", lying in there on the website of Ministry of Industry and Information Technology of China.
Then there comes the real thing called censorship, not just no game to play for one time, there will be no Ubisoft in China anymore.
Similar things actually happened before.
Plus if ppl want, they also have other options helping Ubi establishing the reputation. Such as to exaggerat a little bit of their weird attitude towards the jurisdiction of Japanese authorities over other East Asian countries, who were suffered from Japan in WWII, in front of the angry, nationalistic public of China on their social media.
You can imagine their reaction, right?
Furthermore, unfortunately I'm sure after I figured out all these ways to take the revenge, there will be more Chinese players now in rage be inspired. Think it carefully, the managers from Ubisoft, is this the price you wanna pay, is this the lose you can afford?
If it is, then do nothing and don't release the patch.
vigour45 8 posts
@freezychan Well, you've overestimated the number of Chinese players who have been playing AC title on PlayStation. Ubisoft has long been operating their sales unit for the PC platform in China mainland and for those PC players, they dont care a [censored] about this issue. The distirbution of the PC game is currently protected by a WTO framework near a grey zone, if the notorious reporting is conducted out of self-cencorship upon the Ubisoft games, the one who report it will firstly be placed a bounty by his own people - those PC gamers. So, not much about China mainland in this case, more Asian console players in Hongkong, Taiwan, South Korea and Singapore are actaully affected by this obvious betrayal. They won't lose much if just mainland players got [censored] off and it is just not possible to have an easy fix before the release upon those have been made into physical. Anyway be realistic, go to customer support, accuse them for fraud in marketing in the Asian region, ask for refund and argue for providing Asian language support for the version in the PS store at other country, US, EU, AUS, etc. in the future and simply buy another uncensored copy. That's what I'm gonna do cuz i dont believe their will take the risk to fix the censored content in Asian version anyway.
@vigour45 Of course there's not many playstation players in China. BUT, since AC series is a non official thing either, just one report is enough, and you sure no one would do that after Ubi did what they did to us?
In May 2020 the Chinese Playstation Store was forced to close just for one report.
Are you sure if Ubi pushed these extremist to the edge, they wont turn themselves into suicide attacker? Like "since I cant play it then nobody in this country can, no mater on which platform".
Look at what's happening in Paris and Vienna in reality.
vigour45 8 posts
@freezychan I doubt it if anyone would play suicide just for a game being censored and again no one wins from that reporting move, it's disgusting and wont hurt Ubisoft's business even a tiny little bit as there is nothing illegal here, gaming distribution on the PC platform is protected by agreements, all you can get is got turned againt by those PC gamers as well as those console gamers in China mainland. In short, no point for these threats, it will just put you at a awkward place as a normal hater, we just need a response, just go for a refund and play it on other platform or in English on PS for the moment and give them pressure to provide the language support for the other version if you insist playing it on PS.
Sorry but calling that racist is [...].
I live in DK, we get the same game shipped (without e.g. danish language even though Jesper Kyd and both voice actors for Eivor are danish, amongst other voice actors!) as many other countries.
By your logic these other countries (e.g. most of europe) could represent us - therefore ubi is racist/discriminatory against danes?
TORFINR 331 posts
Blizzard in its World of Warcraft had to remove some blood effects and had to put flesh and skin on some Undead characters because of CHINESE regulations, nothing to do with Japan. From what I've understood China is rather strict when it comes to represent death, dead bodies, inner organs and such. Which is perfectly fine, it's their problem, not ours. But in this thread the Chinese community seems to think that it's Japan's regulation fault. I'm not really sure...
And that "racist" calling... sigh... I'd advice our Chinese friends to open a dictionary and check what the word really means.
Kai5513 56 posts
I have already told the Taiwanese media about your company’s unscrupulous actions so that Taiwanese players will not buy your games in the future.
Kai5513 56 posts
Claims to sell limited-level games, but actually obtains the coaching level games are considered fraud
Original poster KppKerry 109 posts
Remember when Rainbow six siege back in 2018, Ubisoft censored the game, all European and American players are extremely upset, Ubisoft immediately change the decision to not censored the game. Now, when Asian players are upset about the censored of AC:V, Ubisoft do nothing and refuse to answer any questions from us. Haiyaa~
Allgivetome 3 posts
Free Asain playstation!
I believe that the problem that several posters have with your initial statement, is not your dissatisfaction with UbBi's decision, but your use of the word "racism".
I'm not affected by the censoring of your area, and I do not know why Ubisoft chose this, but I really doubt that racism was the reasoning (at least no arguments have so far been presented here backing this up). So I propose that if you want them to take your complaints seriously - that you reconsider your use of the word "racism" and maybe refer to factual arguments instead.
Just my two cents.
@aloninor Ppl call ubi "racism" because they forced other ppl in Asia obey the Japanese law. From their point of view, this means they treat all the asians a whole thing again, which also suggest Ubi, mainly as a western company, has no interests to know their client at all. We asians were treat like a whole thing in western world for a very long long time, white ppl dont distinguish where an Asian came from, or they dont care about that at all. This is our version of the systematic discrimination. And in western world it happens every day. Obviously you are one of the ppl who make it happen.
Le me give you an example, as if I say "all Americans are just American, there's no need to have the parade for BLM, and how could there be systematic discrimination because you never see it, Floyd died for any reason but the fault of the abuse by the police" what do you think about this idea? It's ridiculous, right? You feel it's ridiculous because the black ppl shout it out and you heard they are suffering from it indeed. Now we asian take the same action then you say we are experiencing no racism. Is this the thing you have your rights to judge?
Wowowowowowow....I NEVER said that racism in Asia is not happening. I do not know enough about that, but I assume that racism is happening (just as in any other country in the world).
You claiming that "I am one of the people who make it [racism] happen" is quite a bold statement based on nothing and very rude (at best)....
The only thing I said, was that I do see no evidence presented here - that suggest that Ubisoft's decision was based on racism, and that the very liberal use of the word "Racism" harms its actual meaning and impact. And as I stated before, please present some evidence of this, currently all I have read here are claims and empty statements...
Again, for you to claim that I "make it [racism] happen" is rude (to say the least)...
And why you would compare the killing of Floyd with censuring of video games completely eludes me.... Totally misplaced comparison...
@aloninor I do know it's rude, but what we were treat for decades, centuries was actually even ruder. Unlike black ppl, Asians are more on the quite or introvert side according to western standard. As a result the westerns get used to ignore us. At least back in the days when the black got beaten they cries or beat it back. Asians always tried to avoid the fighting in the first place because the tradition culture thought us it's nonsense if we repeating hurting and revenging. We were just focusing on our own business, then white ppl regarded us as a bunch of weird coward and do whatever they want without even considering of asking if it's okay with us. Even nowadays. What do you think about this?
And of course as I said you ARE a racist. Now you start to complain Floyd's tragic death weights more than our Asian's actual situation. Well done you.