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  • gentester
    64 posts

    my issues with the game playing on PC

    So many bugs, I've lost count of the times I have had to save and reload to get something to complete and still several things are completely borked in my game as the quest has stalled for no apparent reason (in latest one killed the person i was supposed to kill, body has vanished, area can't be cleared from being cursed because game doesn't recognise protagonist is dead in spite of me getting the quest reward, so I can't complete the mysteries for that area and am having to reload a save from nearly 10 hours previous to give it another go) .

    My bird is a complete waste of time, no idea why its even there any more. I loved the system in both Origin and Odyssey where you could send your bird to scout - properly scout not just take a quick glance in the appropriate direction - and then mark your enemy, work out your routes to get from a to b in full stealth hit your target and vanish into the mist. Completely impossible in Valhalla. Far as I can see the raven might just as well be a bit of jewellery.

    The sound is awful, most esp in snow. Stealth in snow sounds like you are stomping around in army boots and jumping up and down on crisp packets and bubble wrap. Boat songs are dire, so many really good viking/norse folk/rock groups out there and we get what sounds like 2 maybe 3 fairly generic dirgy things that all sound much the same compared to Odyssey where some proper research and proper music were evident. In fact the entire sound track for anything other than ambient is poor quality and underwhelming.

    Collision is dire. I keep seeing NPC's happily standing 5 feet above ground. 
    They still haven't fixed the half hour pee, I assume bladder issues must have been endemic in Anglo Saxon times? Or the bandy legs, apparently the entire world suffered from bad knees back then, who knew?

    And something that completely baffles me, you stealth your way into a place for a quest and run across prisoners. Locked behind wicker doors you can basically breathe heavily on to demolish - and all of these poor prisoners are still fully armed with two handed and one handed axes etc.
    Erm Right... Does no one at Ubi think there might be something wrong there? You found prisoners in Origins/Odyssey and when you released them they went off to ostensibly find weapons or they ran away they didn't have them in the cages. 

    Valhalla smacks of a lot of lazy and rushed programming
    Now I get it, they wanted to rush it out to beat CDPR to the punch, they wanted to take advantage of everyone being stuck in various stages of lockdown but really the game needed several more months of polish, what we have now is nowhere near as good at Odyssey was on release day.

  • scottyusceaser1
    34 posts

    @swedishelk The graphics are not great at all... the textures are very low detailed unless its the character models and tree's... and the Draw Distance is diabolical, the ground has no depth, it's all flat, the rocks are squared and unnatural looking.. this is 1000% Alpha...... looking into the distance in Valhalla is like looking at a ps1 game.. veeery low pixel and no grass or detail... but they hide it with fog

  • Raski0611
    107 posts

    Ubisoft made big mistake hiring the devs who created face animation and story in mass effect andromeda and put them in charge for audio and quality control in ac valhalla.

  • guest-udh6e0GF
    2 posts

    I agree this is an absolute horrible game in general and probably the worst in the series, full of bugs to the point it's not fun to play at all, the map and scenery is extremely boring, gameplay action is horrible the fighting is horrible the story is horrible the side missions are horrible. Anyone who says they enjoy this game I think are in denial because they sont want to admit they just wasted atleast 60$


    Compared to odyssey it is an embarrassment in every aspect, lol even just the climbing is garbage

  • SouldrinkerLP
    316 posts

    @guest-udh6e0gf Can't share your opinion.

    Landscapes are awesome, I love the fighting, Parkour oppurtunities are back (mechanics are broken since Origins and still not fixed), story is extremly superior to Odysseys. I had to stop playing Odyssey and come back a year later to finish it. Enjoyed Valhalla from beginning to end. Side missions are nearly non existant but what's there is way better than anything you can find in Odyssey. (Randvi date, Petra mushroom trip etc., side quest unlocking "Mans best friend" ability)

    I am so much looking forward for the DLCs 🙂

    Edit: The problem at hand is more that you can't imagine that other people enjoy the game. This is a you problem.

  • Max18400
    400 posts

    @souldrinkerlp gotta disagree with you there.
    Story falls short in Vahalla. It's disappointing and ends on such a anti-climax. Especially the historical ending.
    I felt that Odyssey's ending (not including dlc) was far more satisfying and enjoyable and made a lot more sense. Vahalla literally ends before a massive event happens that changes the entire political structure of England-game wise it would have been a good place to end it as it set up a status quo in England that lasted for years. Odyssey's main story when there was peace for a few years between Athens and sparta, so it made sense for the narrative to end there. I've not been invested in the modern story of assassin creed for a while, but still didn't really like how they ended it.
    Obviously this does come down to opinion, but just narrative-wise and historically, where it ends does not make sense nor is it satisfying
    Some of the side quests in vahalla aren't great, besides a few exceptions.
    I do enjoy the game, but it needs a lot of work and it needs improvement.

  • SouldrinkerLP
    316 posts

    @max18400 There are only 5 side quests in total...

    And story isn't just about the ending. The ending is in modern time. The story started with Layla going into the animus spoiler

    Compare it to AC2. Ezios story wasn't finished obviously. Same with Altair in AC1. The reason why we go back in history isn't to get a satisfactory historical ending but to get something in modern time we expect there to be.

    Of course I would wish for a second game with Eivor or a 2nd Season Pass. I like Eivor. But I don't need to see where his/her story ends to be satisfied. As the story is connected and that's exactly what I expect from an AC game. I would be fine with "the Ezio Treatment" for Eivor.

  • Max18400
    400 posts

    @souldrinkerlp only 5 exactly and I found myself rushing 3 of them. Besides a couple of ones, didn't find them too engaging.
    To be fair, I appreciate a lot of people liked how the modern day arc ended, but personally I really didn't like it. At all. I could go into why, but it's never been an aspect of the series I've cared about. But that said, I did clearly say I wasn't invested in the modern day story at all. The end to Eivor's story in Chippenham (after Norway) is the ending that grated on me the most for the reasons I've already said.

  • Max18400
    400 posts

    @souldrinkerlp but then again, I disagree with you. Back with the Ezio trilogy, it was a very different story. Modern day was more engaging, and each game, Ezio's stories ended in a full arc. AC 2, he had defeated rodrigo and saw the futility in his vengeance--satisfying place for his personal story to end. AC brotherhood, ended with Ezio fully embracing his role as a leader, killing the antagonist and ending with a satisfactory ending for Ezio in that story. Revelations is the definitive end to Ezio's story, again seeing he had played his part and it was time to retire-again a satisfying end. Those games are like Ezio's story is a burger. The modern day complimented it and added to it, the salad of a burger for example. For example, when a new ac is advertised, it isn't the modern day that front and center, it's the historical narrative. The modern story is just an extra. A reason they can explore different historical settings.
    Eivor's story is just meh. Especially when they have no investment in the conflict of assassin vs templars (or hidden ones vs the order). Compare this to Ezio's trilogy, its of even Odyssey's story, they had a direct motive and ambition to play their parts in that overarcing war. Also, Eivor ends as a political leader within the viking occupied area of England, and the last missions he is directly involved with trying to complete the conquest of England. That it ends before that war is finished is incredibly anti climatic. If they ended it with the battle of Edington, it always the settlement to be more of less secure and also would have paved the way for the DLCs to Ireland and Frankia.

  • SouldrinkerLP
    316 posts

    @max18400 The personal Eivor story arc basically begins with Sigurd rescueing Eivor and ends with Eivor rescueing Sigurd. What happens after the last Modern Day section is just an epilogue. Mainly to finish off the Order and Settlement story.

    I feel the personal ending for Eivor was satisfactory. I wanted to play more Ezio and in Rome after AC2. They went that way with Brotherhood. So I felt like the story wasn't finished yet too with AC2.

    I felt the same with nearly every AC game. They could all continue. Especially Origins. Many people would have loved a second game with Bayek.

    And yea, I am all for Eivor getting the Ezio Treatment (getting sequels)

  • Max18400
    400 posts

    @souldrinkerlp I understand what you're saying, but that epilogue was one of the best bits of gameplay I felt. I was thinking through it thinking, oh my god, they're going to end at Edington, that's perfect. Then they just didn't. The event they end on wasn't even historically a battle. The sack of Chippenham, Alfred had very few supporters with him and fled. The vikings under Guthrum then occupied Chippenham until they were defeated at Edington. They could have ended with the battle of Edington, where potentially Eivor could have lost a lot of friends and allies, meant you could replay in some areas and almost do a conquest/major conquest battles to retake them. It would have been a darker end, but always would have been a secure ending as it essentially created a form of peace between the settled vikings and Anglo-Saxons and would have allowed Eivor to return to Raventhorpe.

    I don't think they'll do another game with Eivor to continue their story. It's plausable, but I don't think it's likely, especially with one DLC (Paris) being on a set date years after the main campaign ends

  • SouldrinkerLP
    316 posts

    @max18400 They could do a 2nd season pass 🙂 And maybe it's just bugged. Considering you can only complete the game 94%. Something IS missing in the game currently. Either it was cut or it is bugged. The seer also foreshadows that the village will burn and people will die if Eivor continues. So maybe it will come with a free update later?

  • Max18400
    400 posts

    @souldrinkerlp can only hope. I'm an a huge history nerd, especially on the viking age. I almost did a PhD on it (until I found out there was no funding at the moment) so I was always going to be a bit of a stickler with it, but I was just disappointed.
    We can only hope that's the plan

  • SouldrinkerLP
    316 posts

    @max18400 But you have to be honest here. AC2 didn't had a huge historical story. The history was just "existing" basically. It conveniently helped the plot sometimes etc. but it wasn't the main focus. Same basically with Black Flag. It only showed a very narrow perspective of pirate history (mostly Blackbeard and his crew)

    You could basically make 4-5 games like Black Flag to tell the whole story of things happening during that age.

    I feel like AC Valhalla does tell us way more history than AC2 did tbh. Which is why I want a second season pass with at least 1 DLC in England tbh. I want MORE of it because it is so good. I want them to tell me more of this because they delivered a very interesting story. (I read most of the actual history during AC Valhalla by now and they did not stick 100% to the actual history but this fits AC because it is telling "the real history" and not the one we believe in today because it is the most likely version etc.)

    So if they make a poll about second season and having more England stuff count me in 😉

  • Max18400
    400 posts

    They could never make any history game 100% historically accurate. It would have a too niche audience. All the games have simplified so many aspects to make when qualify as a video game l: and also to make it appropriate for a modern audience.
    That said, the AC games should, and for the most part, do loosely follow history. Ezio and black flag did portray some really great historical events, but for the most part were on the fringes of the historical periods (AKA not around a major historical event), whereas the last 3 games are very closely linked. For example, origins showing the assassination of Caesar,or Odyssey's Athenien plague.
    I hope they add it in as the free dlc they're releasing later this month. Would make sense to (the real sack of Chippenham happened around Christmas/new year877/878, and the battle of Edington was spring 878)

  • Assassinofcake
    43 posts

    @martygod12 i had that on odyssey to, the draw distance is bad since origins, you only notice this time because the low poly model of grass is bright green

  • Assassinofcake
    43 posts

    the game is unfinished and unpolished, but your points arent valid the draw distance was even worst in odyssey, i would literaly be standing on a stone and the textures would not appear, i have that problem in valhalla but its less frequent, and the major problem that you point is not mutch of the draw distance but more of the bright color low polly model of the grass, sometimes you are justa riding and they pop up florecentlly.
    the water is amazing though i find problems with the colision in low docks and ice, sometimes its too green but i grew fond of it
    the mechanics apart from parkour arent bad
    textures, sound world design and story are amazing
    the inventory is badly optimized and needs a sorting feature
    and i have to say i miss the color in the map
    the game has a lot of bugs, and i mean a lot,
    it also looks that the side content is going to be released as free seasonal dlc... transmog, avange player, replayable content, more gear etc will be added.
    i want also to point that this is not odysseys sequel, its valhallas sequel, it was made from it with the same team, and it is not an rpg

  • Crucco88
    15 posts

    They have released an open beta basically. The amount of bugs and glitches is proportional to the level of approximation this game has been prepared.
    I'll park the game until becomes playable.

  • Gayngel2019
    16 posts

    @gentester You can unlock highlighting/mark all enemies in an area while crouching undetected in the skill tree. Personally I also think it's silly to have it this way, Senu and Ikaros' marking was way better.

  • dubbillionaire
    9 posts

    @gayngel2019

    I think they did it this way for immersion. It was rather cheesy to have him mark every enemy in a fort easily without any real effort. The focus is more on scouting personal surroundings. I'm not sure I like it this way but if you choose to immerse yourself into the game then it may be fun trying to find paths you cannot see on your own. Either way it is gameified because how the hell is the bird gonna tell you there's 22 enemies and all their positions anyways lol

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