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  • evilhippo
    78 posts

    "As a result, Eivor, who supports the assassins, cannot hurt innocent people"

    But Eivor isn't a member of the assassins & only 'supports' them to the point he shares an enemy with them. Given how the game ends, he REALLY isn't likely to have a very high opinion of the assassins.

  • Sciophyte.
    5 posts

    It's a little annoying, but you can off the occasional monk and such here and there, as long as you don't overindulge... and frankly, systematically slaughtering all the civilians—who don't even fight back—would get old real fast, at least for me.

  • Ingel_Riday
    9 posts

    @dbgager Yeah... my Eivor has averaged 1.62 kills per minute and has slaughtered 3,879 beasts & men in the past 100 hours... and I have not gone out of my way to kill things. That's just his normal pace.

    Also, I kind of wonder what you consider "homicidal maniac" at this point. I guess raiding an innocent village, burning every thatched hut and building to the ground, killing every local militia member in sight (you know, the brothers / sons / fathers / husbands of the community that vowed to protect their families & people), slaughtering the local leader, and looting everything of value that isn't nailed down doesn't count as homicidal or maniacal so long as you don't stab anyone that isn't actively wielding a weapon? *shrug* Lowest bar I've ever seen, morality-wise. 😛

    If ever there was an Assassin's Creed game in which the "desync for killing civilians" option made no sense, it would be this one... in which you belong to a faction that is literally conquering and colonizing a foreign realm while tormenting & pillaging every single indigenous settlement you can find. Haha.

  • mitsunari3
    Original poster 73 posts
    I certainly feel that immersion takes a hit, if that's your thing, in this case. But given the sensitivity issues it is understandable. I think it should be punishable through a gameplay mechanic, that ultimately ends up in your village getting obliterated by [censored] off Christians and game over. Desync isn't cool and it really doesn't let such horrible tendencies and actions carry any weight.

    I didn't actively go after monks but some ended up a collateral in tight corridors. While it's not my thing and I don't have Christian-murdering fantasies the desync message warning wasn't cool to see. It literally happened in the heat of battle and it suddenly told me that I am about to get punished for collateral in non-combatants in a crowded raid...


    exactly.

    hell even a first year computing student can program desync.

  • DreadGrrl
    163 posts

    @imaginaryruins
    The Assassins killed thousands of innocent people in Portugal, and they should have known it would happen (they killed thousands of innocents in Haiti in the same way).

    The Assassins kill innocents. A LOT of them. They’re just as arrogant (and wrong) as the Templars are.

  • JobuuRumdrinker
    17 posts

    I agree on this post. Why should the game just come to stop when I kill a few civilians? I hate it when I set a trap on a dead body and a few stupid NPCs walk over and get blown up. It also happens when you're doing quests like blowing up silos. Stupid civilians get too close to the explosion. It's not my fault they can't avoid fire.

  • mitsunari3
    Original poster 73 posts
    It's a little annoying, but you can off the occasional monk and such here and there, as long as you don't overindulge... and frankly, systematically slaughtering all the civilians—who don't even fight back—would get old real fast, at least for me.

    @sciophyte
    shouldn't be that way,
    we're customers, not school kids, why do we have to act like cheeky kids do naughty stuff quickly while their parents/ teachers turn their back for 2 secs.

    i have been playing open world games since 2001, indeed it will soon get old, but i find it insulting to be "parented".
    if ubi montreal wants my money, respect us as an adult customers first.

  • fish212121
    2 posts


    I never touched the game again after the desync message popped up. And I will not spend another cent in dlcs or the helix store until they change this policy (which obviously will never happen).

    It just makes me laugh that all the top people involved in this game had to step down because of sexual harassment. These are the pure people who are going to tell you how you should conduct yourself morally in a video game.

    The Irony

  • Karloz1995
    268 posts

    @evilhippo when i was a kid (12yo), i used to like the assassins more, but nowadays they are being depicted very annoying, so arrogants and ofcourse sinces they are atheist, they always trying to act so "woke" and "cool".. at some points of the game u can hear basim wanting to laugh at the christians and also how arrogant he tend to be because of his believes... if u read the codex about the hidden ones/assasins and the order/templars... the templars codex makes more senses to me... the assassins way of thinking wich is (nihilism) is very inmature and view humanity as a robot who thinks a like... simplistic way of thinking.. they believe giving absolute "freedom" will make everyone good and respectful somehow.. wich seeeing how real life people is thats wont likely be the case... also the templars one.. seens more realistic to me.. more drastic but at the same time more realistic... they added the part about "isu" superiority because apart for that thing.. their ways has for me more senses then the assassins...

  • Asgardian02
    1932 posts

    @mitsunari3

    yeah the 18+ tag makes no sense.
    Sure the combat is a bit more gory but in a lot of other parts it sure doesnt feel like 18+

    I dont feel like an Jarl at all, i am constantly doing other ppls bidding, like the stupid spirit hunt or the egg hunt, [censored] is that all about.
    Your constantly running around doing errands for other ppl.

    When you go raiding, you cant even truly command your troops or even select your own troops and select abilities or gear for them.

  • kreutzgang
    635 posts

    @mitsunari3 It would be okay if you only got that warning if you go out of your way to kill them, but they rush into the middle of battle making it friendly fire. Most of the time when I got the desyc warning, I didn't even know I'd hit a civilian. Personally I preferred the system in Odyssey, where they attacked you and if you wanted to avoid killing them, you'd have to run away, and if you did kill them, more and more would come and you'd end up with a massive bounty.

    That said, Valhalla is very linear in its design anyway and would have been better off without an open world. You cannot infiltrate storyline forts, and when attacking them during quests, you have to do it in the way the game tells you to.

  • Kormac67
    571 posts

    You can infiltrate storyline forts. I did that. But it usually makes more sense grabbing the treasure once you have properly conquered in during the story.

  • kreutzgang
    635 posts

    @kormac67 when I tried it, the enemies just kept respawning, same as they do if you do something other than what the game tells you to during the sieges.

  • DV20Katana
    8 posts

    I totally agree with this. We should be allowed to kill civilian NPCs without the game restarting the level. This feature is there in some Far Cry games and also in Ghost Recon Wildlands and its really really annoying.

    AC Odyssey allows us to kill innocent NPCs, last night I went on a rampage and was surrounded by bodies, it was so much fun. Sometimes you just wanna have fun ya know?

    Im sad to hear that Valhalla has re-enabled this annoying feature. This is a single player game, it will not affect anyone but the person playing the game. My idea is to make it a menu item that can be turned ON and OFF.

    Allow killing of civilian NPC?_____[Yes]........[No]

    This way both kinds of gamer will be happy. They already have that choice for Blood FX so why not for this? Also yes the automatic horse speed-control - why?? Just ...why??????

    I love the AC, FC & GR franchises from Ubi but these are some very irritating features that I hope will be addressed by giving the gamer a choice.

  • valorin
    12 posts

    Vikings are very romanticised in the game, yeah. It's most noticable when raiding a monastey, Eivor screams to burn and plunder christian gold and then everyone just ignores all the monks and people running around and kill soldiers only. We are supposed to like Eivor though, and if he/she would slaughter innocents, that would be more authentic, but not very likable.
    What I really don't like about the restriction is, that especially when wielding a two handed weapon, civilians would be stupid enough to run into the blade while fighting soldiers. I really love my two handed sword, even if it's not authentic. There were no two handed swords back then like we have them in the game. Really looking forward to get my hands on a one-handed one. 🙂

  • Kormac67
    571 posts

    I briefly tuned into an Odyssey stream this week and the guy was just murdering civilians to get his bounty up.
    I left again right away thinking "wish this had desync on civilian kills like in Valhalla".

  • Patricia81994
    113 posts
    I totally agree with this. We should be allowed to kill civilian NPCs without the game restarting the level. This feature is there in some Far Cry games and also in Ghost Recon Wildlands and its really really annoying.

    AC Odyssey allows us to kill innocent NPCs, last night I went on a rampage and was surrounded by bodies, it was so much fun. Sometimes you just wanna have fun ya know?

    Im sad to hear that Valhalla has re-enabled this annoying feature. This is a single player game, it will not affect anyone but the person playing the game. My idea is to make it a menu item that can be turned ON and OFF.

    Allow killing of civilian NPC?_____[Yes]........[No]

    This way both kinds of gamer will be happy. They already have that choice for Blood FX so why not for this? Also yes the automatic horse speed-control - why?? Just ...why??????

    I love the AC, FC & GR franchises from Ubi but these are some very irritating features that I hope will be addressed by giving the gamer a choice.


    Uh ... i think we need to talk about what you did and how much fun it was. 😜

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    12 posts
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