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  • Asgardian02
    1932 posts

    another thing thats missing is achievemnts, i dont understand why they removed that from odyssey.

  • OrcBeard92
    Original poster 141 posts

    @asgardian02 Yeah, Npc's would always come off looking slightly better than what we could make, but the variety was still there. Much more than what we have at present. It's even stranger, because there is some kind of visual customisation involved for your Jomsviking. Can even affect the colour of the gear, with the right combination.

    Valhalla at present is far from what it could be, and it could be great. Right now it is missing the mark on a lot of key points.

  • Asgardian02
    1932 posts

    @orcbeard92

    exactly, your can hardly see your jomviking much, dont understand why he has some sort of customisation but your own hero doesnt.

    Its also pretty lacklaster that many armor pieces and weapons dont change look when you upgrade them to a better quality.

    Armor just changes into some ww84 wonderwoman gold armor, it looks totally off to be honest to walk around in gold sets.

  • B00MSIE
    329 posts

    @asgardian02

    I also really dislike the gold look. Vikings had some gold, but it was mainly used for jewelry (as far as I know).

  • Asgardian02
    1932 posts

    @b00msie

    all in all armor sometimes looks like a fish eye camaera totally distorted, odyssey is an older game, but armor looked so much better.

    on npc and your hero alike.

  • SII_Frederic
    24 posts

    @orcbeard92

    I can agree that more interaction with Sunin should happen. A way to upgrade Sunin over time like in origins and odyssey would've been nice but isn't needed. If they included Sunin in your cutscenes more like they included Ikaros in Odyssey it would've solved this issue IMO.

    Mounted Combat should return it's been in the AC series since the first game. whoever thought let's just make him kick instead of (Axe, Sword, Spear, etc...) should be fired. Not having mounted combat is just bonkers to me.

    Armour sets. I can agree there should be more armor in the game, as well as more weapon types (Regular swords *hint*)

    My only other complaint would be the longship. I'd like to see longships fighting each other. (I know nothing of history but I'm sure it happened) or being able to have your longship rain arrows down on a riverside road with guards and watching them being pierced and flayed by your raiding parties arrows. this would've been a nice touch, could've added upgrade for the longship, health/armor, arrow damage, arrow capacity, reload speed (re-nocking? the word for resting an arrow onto the nock of the bow).

    Raiding party - they never seem to die? the immortal raiding party, I think it'd be fair if you had some generic Raid NPC that could die during a raid, then a marker would appear above their bodies and you'd perform a burial ritual (ceremony? IDK the proper word) for them, you'd see a short cutscene of building pyres, eivor getting a dialogue of 3 options to talk about them and then your lieutenant would talk about them and then light the pyres. I think it'd give some depth and realism to raiding since raiders contrary to Valhalla don't live forever. Maybe make other players jomsviking able to die as well and have them have a special cutscene with more unique dialogue. Making that character unusable for the next 24 hours. which would give reason to the 100 jomsviking limit.
    This is a spitball idea i just came up with might not be perfect might have some holes in it but it's an idea.

  • OrcBeard92
    Original poster 141 posts

    @sii_frederic When I saw one of my crewmembers get 'wounded' in a fight, where they are knocked down and you can 'revive' them/pick them up, I left one of them alone to see if he would eventually die. But once combat ends, they just get up as if nothing happened. Very disappointing. I get that your crew are elite warriors but there must be a limit. Currently the only one at any threat during a raid is yourself, which feels wrong.

    They show one of your drengr dying in the reveal cinematic, so why do we not have it in the game today? I agree that funerals and crew death would add a lot more dynamic to your settlement, as opposed to collecting Jomsvikings like pokemon. Would actually give you a reason for recruiting new vikings, with experience and gear etc.

    Your longship crew will fire arrows at targets close to shore, but not in the controlled volleys of Odyssey. They just fire individually, which isn't super effective but I guess it's more realistic? Not perfect. I actually got into an arrow-fight with a camp as we sailed by which was quite cool, and some bandits in Grantebridge. They even shot at some wolves who were next to a river.

  • SII_Frederic
    24 posts

    @orcbeard92

    yeah i'm glad someone agrees on the vikingrs/drengr should be able to die.

    I've received arrow fire a few times but my boat never fires back. I have not seen a single one of my vikingrs shoot an arrow, i didn't think they could for the longest. To say the least. I just feel like since he commands the ship that you should be able to command the vikingrs to pull their bows while the rowers keep rowing maybe at a reduced speed because fewer rowers (but then if the sail is up what does it matter?) I just think it's a small thing that would have created something more to work on in the game.

    While it shouldn't be such a large volley as Odyssey you should see a small group of arrows, kinda like how mortars were in AC4 but way less range and area of effect and lower damage but concentrated enough to kill low level adds and decent damage to decent spec'd adds.

  • OrcBeard92
    Original poster 141 posts

    @sii_frederic If you draw your bow while at the command, Eivor will shout 'bows!' and 'fire!' when using it. This can trigger your men to fire at targets on shore, and you can use your bow normally.

    During raids, I've also seen some crewmembers remain in the ship, and fire arrows in support from there, but it depends on the settlement you are hitting.

  • SII_Frederic
    24 posts

    @orcbeard92

    I've fired a few times from my boat never noticed my guys do anything i've heard them say things never seen them fire tho. i'll keep a closer when i get on valhalla next time.

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