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  • TORFINR
    331 posts

    @pesto We do agree.
    But adding real RPG elements isnt that complicated, and they have done it in the past (Odyssey took the correct direction, Origins was also promising). We're not asking them here to invest time and energy for something complicated, but to stay true to themselves with the RPG elements. Why add RPG elements with stats on items, levels, skills, passive skills, and such if it isnt to make them behave like true RPG elements?!?
    Making the RPG system work in Valhalla would need a small patch as it is mainly about game's mechanics, no graphics at all.
    They constantly navigate between the RPG genre and the action combat genre à la AC without setting a clear course. At the end of the day AC fans are disappointed, and RPG fans are disappointed too.

    Valhalla is a beautiful game, but its mechanics are bested by half a dozen of android/smartphone RPG games (and by almost all RPG games of 80s-90s ... *sigh* 😞 an astonishingly beautiful shell, with a rotten heart.


  • DJAM3R
    11 posts

    @alphagoose46219
    Yeah I noticed that too. I was playing as male Eivor, and people were referring to me as "she"

  • longjohn119
    499 posts
    @longjohn119

    Hi Longjohn,

    I think you will find ESO really enjoyable, make sure to get some of the mods that really add quality of life improvements. I play solo, the only guild I have joined in ESO is the trading guild as that's the only way to sell your stuff. (Im 54 and none of my friends play games either so its solo all the way for me too)

    There is very little you cant do as a solo player, even the wee dungeons(delves) on each map are for solo players and some of the bigger dungeons are manageable for many players solo when they are higher leveled.

    I love the crafting and levelling my characters. There are main quests on each map with little story arcs to complete and loads of materials to gather and vistas to check out as well as the delves and sidequests helping towns people, its really lovely.

    I adored Skyrim for the mods and the role-playing and customisation and the funny npcs and stories and the ESO online is really good for those features now too. Of course The Witcher 3 is sublime and Blood and Wine DLC my very favourite all time Witcher DLC. So put ESO on that list of yours, even without the companion system I think you will love it. 🙂

    Oh and regarding your other posts about google user rating, Id probably put Odyssey above Origins because it was way more RPGish but Origins was a lovely game too. Odyssey for me is below those 2 and maybe even below the London Assassin game as I really enjoyed that wee tour of London and playing as the twins. Size isn't as important to me as replayability. 🙂

    I greatly enjoyed playing around with the assassin tools that the twins have, nothing like a good berserk dart to get the job done!


    I also rate Odyssey over Origins but a I really liked both .... For me it's Odyssey then Black Flag then Origins or really Black Flag/Origins second depending on my mood (I really dislike the follow quests in Black Flag but everything else I love)

    Thanks for the tips on ESO, frankly I didn't think you could mod it because most online multiplayer games don't allow it but I did take a peek on Nexus and saw there were some graphical mods (Mostly reshades it look like) but also some inventory management stuff. I also hear the online community isn't nearly as toxic as most online multiplayer games which is why I quit playing them probably 15 years ago. Although I did run a server and racing league for Papyrus NASCAR Racing from 2001 - late 2006 but that was a mostly closed server and league to keep the riff raff and wreckers out

  • Cell1e
    174 posts

    @longjohn119

    Black Flag was surprisingly good, I wasn't too keen on the hero, oh Gosh he was awful but somehow I ended up liking him. Loved the exploring in the ship and island hopping and like you I HATED those follow quests, I think most of us did. I must get back to that game, I agree its definitely up there in AC game list.

    The mods for ESO are quality of life improvements, you will see when you start playing, I'm using minion and for my mods(add-ons) for ESO although Im usually a mod manager fan. Minion works best for ESO I think.

    The players are fine, I havent had issues with any but I don't do groups so play very little attention to the chat box. Good luck with ESO! I wish I was a new player again, I love that feeling of excitement and discovering new and interesting things to do in my games..

  • scruntinsly
    9 posts

    I think Valhalla is huge step back compared to Odyssey. I know that the other studio at Ubisoft made this game. This I dislike most about this game

    1. story very weak
    2. the markers in the game are horrible
    3. the difficulty is nonexistent, the game at hard is just to easy
    4. combat is boring and lacks the different abilities that Odyssey had
    5. THE AMOUNT OF BUGS IS MIND NUMBING, HOW IS THERE STILL BUGS FROM 6 MONTHS AGO THAT ARE PREVENTING PEOPLE FROM FINISHING THE GAME NOT FIXED?
    6. How was the game released with so many bugs?
    7. Why are mastery point in Valhalla worthless compared to Odyssey


    I can keeping going on. I think this game is 2 steps back from Odyssey. They SHOULD have let the studio that made Odyssey make this because this one clearly is clueless.

  • macsneedy
    4 posts

    @katzenkrimis71 wrote:

    I'm the opposite of you. I played Odyssey for 283 hours and I hated it by the time I got to the end of the expansions. In fact, I even quit the game a couple of hours before the finish line because I just couldn't take it anymore.

    For one, the writing in Odyssey is bloody awful. And so is most of the voice acting. Valhalla is much improved in that department. The writing is sick and twisted, even funny at times. And with so many characters dying, it feels much more realistic.


    couldn't disagree more. melissanthi mahut's voice acting for kassandra was some of the best i've heard, and it was perfectly matched with the animation, which is probably the most expressive i've ever seen in a video game. and the writing in odyssey was so much better. the stories in valhalla are dull by comparison. all in all valhalla is a bit of a dud. the abilities and UI, switching between melee bars, separate assassin skills, combat mechanics, key mapping, ship combat - it's all better in odyssey.

  • scruntinsly
    9 posts

    I think the Quebec team did a horrible job on Valhalla compared to odyssey.

    The combat reminds me of Origins combat, boring and lack luster compared to Odyssey.

    The loot system in Valhalla is awful compared to Odyssey.

    As much as i as i hate the random loot in Odyssey, it was 1000 times better tehn valhalla.

    I really think Valhalla hs a lot of issues. The main issue is the bugs. How can a game be released with as many bugs as valhalla had and still has.

    More then likely i WILL NEVER BUY ANIOTHER UBISOFT GAME AGAIN. THERE IS NOT EXCUSE EXCEPT GREED TO EXPLAIN WHY THE GAME WAS RELEASED IN THE CONDITION IT WAS. THE MANAGER OF THE QUEBEC TEAM SHOULD BE FIRED

    How is there still game breaking bugs for 6 months after release? all these bugs should have been fixed prior to release.

  • Ken_Koerperich
    52 posts

    As stated, the "shell" of the game is beautiful.

    "Core" of the game is severe poo poo.

    3 AC's in a row w/ the stupid, hey, I'm gonna jump on this wall/fence/whatever and do the "chicken dance" I'm stuck like a fool here...

    Combat, really, stand in place w/ dagger going, I stab, stab, stab, stab, oh hey, let's do a spin stab...uggh, target isn't even close so 4 of 5 stabs strike diddly squat...

    Cut scenes that you know for a fact are "canon" ones, so playing as a "MALE" makes it look stupid...

    Several instances of being refered to as the "canon/female" version, yet you're playing as a male....

    Nudity filter, really? Only one scene so far I've found, with boobies....Why have a filter when there is nothing for it to FILTER???

    Quest glitches galore...

    Severe bug, when I upgraded to PS5 version, my whole save file VANISHED...180hrs wiped, and had to start over....UGGGHHH!!!

    List goes on, I really wish they would fix this....As it's going, once ESO Blackwood comes out this is going into the TRASH!

  • longjohn119
    499 posts
    I think the Quebec team did a horrible job on Valhalla compared to odyssey.

    The combat reminds me of Origins combat, boring and lack luster compared to Odyssey.

    The loot system in Valhalla is awful compared to Odyssey.

    As much as i as i hate the random loot in Odyssey, it was 1000 times better tehn valhalla.

    I really think Valhalla hs a lot of issues. The main issue is the bugs. How can a game be released with as many bugs as valhalla had and still has.

    More then likely i WILL NEVER BUY ANIOTHER UBISOFT GAME AGAIN. THERE IS NOT EXCUSE EXCEPT GREED TO EXPLAIN WHY THE GAME WAS RELEASED IN THE CONDITION IT WAS. THE MANAGER OF THE QUEBEC TEAM SHOULD BE FIRED

    How is there still game breaking bugs for 6 months after release? all these bugs should have been fixed prior to release.


    When this turned out to be a dud I started playing highly modded versions of Skyrim and currently The Witcher 3 and there is a ton of loot everywhere and they are considered to be 2 of the best games in the genre ...... Frankly I don't understand the "Less loot is better" argument or the "30 hour games are better than 100 hour games" argument .....

    Lot's of recent press this week saying nothing has changed at Ubisoft over the last year, it's still a Toxic Hellhole to work at and it shows in the quality of the games ..... 99% of bankruptcies and business failures are caused by bad management not bad workers .... People who are at the top of their field as Programmers or Engineers don't stick around and take a lot of crap, they move on first chance they get and I think that is what has happened at Ubisoft, the cream of the crop has left the company. I suspect that's why they are having such a bad problem with the PC ports, the people who originally coded the AnvilNext game engine are no longer around and no one left has the chops .... Coding a game using a game engine is one thing and developing a game engine itself is an entirely different level and skill set ......

  • Cell1e
    174 posts

    @scruntinsly

    Yes I agree with you that the story is VERY weak. It also kind of meanders and is too dark for my personal taste, I draw the line at young ones being killed off in games without very good reason. Usually in games you have the big baddy that you fight against, there was no black and white in this game, no big baddy, the story was mainly about making allies and then helping Siguard with some stuff at the end.

    The assassin stuff was very low priority and I do believe this game should never have been an assassins creed game, just a viking game.

    As a standalone viking game I might have felt differently about it. (Although I probably wouldn't have bought it as I'm so not into vikings- barbaric as they were)

    I bought this game for the assassins creed experience and didn't get that.

    It was a nice game lacking a soul with lots of bugs and really not so nice that I would go there again, only maybe to try out some more mods from nexus which is the only way I was able to finish it all these months after installing it.

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