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  • cap.cla
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  • cap.cla
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    I want to say why I've made this discussion.I've made it because one of the thing that for me should be improved in the future is the possibility to have a romance relationship in Valhalla.In fact,You can only:kiss your lover,do something with your lover,go to bed with your lover(it is only possible to kiss Randvi and go to bed with her).Seeing the romance relationships in the previous games,as the one between Ezio and Sofia or the one between Elise and Arno,I think it is strange and stupid that now the romance relationships can't have more an impact on the evolution of the protagonist, because you can choice the person to have a relationship with.The smartest solution would be removing this feauture in the future,but we all know that Ubisoft will never do this because of their new formula and of the politically correct, that for me is one of the things that should never have an impact on a game,but unfortunatly the world of today works in this way.Anyhow I think that,also respecting the RPG formula introduced in Odyssey, it is still possible to make the relationships work better.They said that they want to make the Valhalla post launch the longest and the biggest in the AC's history.So,why doesn't make new and free romance missions to evolve our relationships and,if we want,have children?

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  • TheSmio
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    @cap-cla This just can't happen in a game like Assassin's Creed. Or rather it can't happen with the RPG "your odyssey" formula. Romances right now don't really have any significance on the story of the character, so they can easily implement them into the game. However, if they introduced the ability to make a family with whoever you wish, then they could never address these characters again in the future because your choice of family would heavily impact their story.

    What I mean by that is that everyone knows who Ezio was, how his life went and who his love interests were. This mean you can easily reference this in other games and they could even say something like "Ezio also had a child with Cristina, but nobody knew" as a retcon. It could [censored] people off, but the writers could do that.

    In the current formula, it's different. Imagine if you play as lesbian Eivor and then the next AC game comes and they say that Eivor had a male partner and a child. That would go against the story many people experienced. This is the reason why they can't really give you the choice in major decisions, because the overall narrative of the series would get lost.

    The only way to do this is to give you a pre-set storyline which makes the character have a family and a child. I don't really mind this option, but Odyssey already showed how easily this can [censored] people off because it breaks the promise of giving you the choice.

    In short, Assassin's Creed is still stuck somewhere between "It's your odyssey" and a pre-set narrative that keeps it all together. This limits the options of the writers a lot.

  • bielik01
    820 posts

    @thesmio exactly, it should be understood that we only re-live memories of what happened in the past, we don't really create new future, so I'm with team Ubisoft on this

  • cap.cla
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    I know that you're probably thinking that this would have a too big impact in the story to make it be something that we can choose.But,if all the rumors are true,in 2022 we'll get three mythological DLCs and,if the support will continue also in 2023,probably also the expansions of that year will be mythological,so that they can eventually continue the story arc in which Odin wants to find a way to resurrect his son Baldr.Nothing of what happened to Eivor can and evolve our headcanon and not have an impact on the lore of the series.So,what do you think?Does what I've said could have a sense and make happier the players?Do you have any suggestion to make it work better?

  • bielik01
    820 posts

    @cap-cla maybe Odin will ressurect his son in future updates, but there's no certainty Baldr will be reincarnated into Eivor's offspring 😂

  • cap.cla
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    What I wanted to say, but I couldn't say clearly because of problem with the forum,is that if the part of the story of Valhalla that will have an impact on the lore and the future of the series will be mythological,the story of Eivor can continue,without any important impact,in new and free missions about his life in Ravensthorpe.So we can evolve our headcanon,also making a family.

  • ImaginaryRuins
    418 posts

    @thesmio
    @bielik01

    You said it.

    A lot of players, whom I believe to be new ones jumping in since AC Origins, do not seem to realise that AC is not a pure RPG, and there is an important setting: the Animus. We are relieving the memories of someone, rather than creating our own adventures. As a result, there are limitations in the choices players can make since they are living the life of someone else, not their own. If the Animus subject did not actually do something in their life, then the players cannot force that to happen.

  • bielik01
    820 posts

    @imaginaryruins I'm actually mad at this that we're given multiple dialog options and the outcome of each one may be different
    we may end up with different endings, which is too RPG-y for Assassin's Creed (like those choices were within Animus limitations, but the past is the past - there's only one version of it)

  • cap.cla
    Original poster 86 posts








    I agree with you and with the other two people who have written something in this discussion, because I am too a fan who began to play the Assassin's Creed games through the first ones.And because of this reason,I'd like if Ubisoft put less RPG elements in the next games.But,if they want to continue in this way,they should reveal clearly what is equal for everyone, because of the fact we can't change the memories of the protagonist,and what we can choose.For me,if what I'm proposing was impossible, because maybe Eivor canonically doesn't want a marriage and children,it should be clear.There should be dialogues to explain why the romance relationship that we choose to have can't evolve in that way,also if it would be normal in the viking society of that age.So I think that or Ubisoft,

  • cap.cla
    Original poster 86 posts

    through the next expansions,has to explain why Eivor choices not to have a family,even if it was possible,or it has to make a feauture to evolve the romance,letting us choose what really Eivor did and not changing what he really did.If they don't care giving us some informations about the characters,they should simply let us choose what it is right and what not.I am too one that would like to have again a game as the first ones and a protagonist as Ezio or Altaïr.But,if this doesn't happen,there will be need to find a way to make the new game better,not only about the family argument.I hope that Ubisoft will hear the requests of the old fans and will make better the next games.If they don't do it,for me Assassin's Creed is dead.






  • cap.cla
    Original poster 86 posts

    Just something to try to convince the Avengers and Fast and Furious' fans,like me,to vote yes.undefined

  • cap.cla
    Original poster 86 posts

    Surely you can't vote no after seeing this.

  • hydrogenmissle
    25 posts

    @cap-cla play mount and blade 2 dude u can do this stuff. having a family isnt really what assassins creed is all about. i mean if ubisoft just adds it for... whatever reason yeah cool great but like i can think of a million other aspects to the game that demands attention before we even think about starting a family.

  • Karmachaositgp
    90 posts

    @cap-cla There too worried about offending the lgtb community. Look at the fit they threw aver the blood lines dlc...Thats how you make a baby people lol. But it was ok for the game to force countless same gender situations despite someone playing a straight character? Where was our choice in that? There wasn't one. 5 complete playthroughs of odyssey 3 with alexios and 2 with kassandra and every playthrough you are forced to endure regardless of your choices that ubisoft claimed had meaningful impact. Assassins creed pretty much has always been about the blood line since Altair, it's still present in this pre Altair trilogy just not as pronounced I feel.

  • katzenkrimis71
    162 posts

    Evolve our relationships and,if we want,have children?

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    No bloody way.

    This is not a role-playing game, it's an action/adventure.

    They need to focus on putting the Assassin back in Assassin's Creed, not turning it into Sims 5.

    Starting a family and having babies in this series would be as dumb as putting one in Far Cry 6. Or any of Ubisoft's other games.

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