Hi, first of sorry for reposting this from another topic, but the post is far away in the discussion adn I guess most people wont read that far and I really want to hear more people opinion on this issue. So here it is:

I just killed a Zealot ... I took me like 10 freakin minutes on hard cause they are really tough, and what did I get?? Absolutelly nothing, just WHY? WHY would I waste time killing this guys if I dont get literally anything for killing them? This game is so [censored] up when it comes to rewards.

Zealots and Order - What do you actually get for killing them? Why bother? Why dont you get at leats like 2 armor set for killing all zealots and order members? Just jest get some stupid dialog yeah man thats what you want after you spend so much time killing the tough guy.

Roman Artefacts - Great oportunity to give us some Roman themed armor set, for returning the mask ... what we get instead?? Stupid statues which are absolutelly uselless .. again why??

Legendary Animals - Other totally tough and time consuming fights and what you get? Two or three weapons and thats all .. yeah at least here you get some weapons but why not some hunter themed set also ... why the hell I would rather get a stupid tattoo which I cant even see on my character for such a tough fight then a piece of armor?? Who though this was a good idea ?

Standing stones - [censored] is that ... you spend 5 minutes trying to get the stupid symbols in order and what you get ? 1 skill point ... Seriously ONE ????? ONE?? You get two for every level and there are like 300 of them so you basically level up every ten minutes ... this has absolutely no value as a reward what so ever ... why even bother doing this ??

Boss fights - this is like RPG 101 .. when you kill a boss you get a reward .. yet this is not the case in this game ... most of times you get absolutelly nothing for killing bosses ... why even bother with the fight ?? Just skip it and show me the cutscene and be done with it ...

Treasure maps - Instead of gear you get a ship design lol ... why who would rather get ship design instead of piece of gear???

Tattooes - We have dozens of tattooes designs to put on every part of our body, yet we dont have any armors with exposed chest or arms ... other absolutelly unlogical and stupid decision ...

Those are just a few examples where the game fails terribly in terms of rewarding the player for exploration and just playing the game. There is simply no motivation for doing anything in this game except for the strory. I watched a lot of gameplay vids before release and in one devs said there would be less gear then in Odyssey but more uniqe. So I thought ok, I dont have to trip over gear on every corner if there be less ger and harder to find I am ok with that. But I never thought that less gear mean almost NONE. I thought less mean like 30 armor sets nicely placed around the world as treasures and as rewards for playing the game and exploring. 10 armors of which most you just find in chests around the world is just not enough, it is a joke and a complete destruction of the game for those who likes the most basic RPG element there is.

Why would you want tattooes, hairstyles and settlement cosmetics as a reward for playing a game more then new gear? Who the hell thought this was a good idea? You cant even see your tattooes, you dont spend hours standing in your settlement looking at decorations, what you do is playing the game with your character and use and see his armor/gear. In the most importatn area where the variety and customization should be biggest there is close to none in this game.

Citation of one of the in game hints during loading screens "World of Assassins Creed Valhalla is massive and full of interesting items and opportunities. Take your time and explore the wilderness to find new locations and uniqe rewards" Ubisoft care to tell me where are all those interesting items and uniqe rewards? Because I explored a lot and failed to find any items at all ... after 25 hours of exploring I have two sets of armor and 11 weapons in my inventory ... This is a lot to you??? 10 armor sets is a lot to you??? Why are you lying to us ... exploring in this game is absolutelly pointless.

I know it is too late for Valhalla and its sad, because this game had so much potential in terms of exploration and all is wasted by poor decisions. But for the next AC please try to find some compromises, some middle ground between Odyssey and Valhalla ... yes we dont need to find new gear every five minutes .. but there must be a good variety of it, exploration must be rewarding, 10 armor sets is not even close to enough for such a massive game. I am so dissapointed because I was so hyped for this game, I coudlnt wait to explore all of the Viking era England, but now I just play the story and do very little of exploring, when there is no gear as a rewards I just dont have the motivation. I know that for a lot of people this is not an issue, but there is a reason why so many people loved Odyssey and its loot system, it is cause its rewarding and it makes you to keep playing the even after you completed the story and the side missions. And for all those you just take any enjoyment from playing the game beside the story.

I bought all Origins, Odyssey and Vallhala on day 1. With Origins and Odyssey I had a blast it with and never regretted that I bought the games for a full price. But with Valhalla I must say I regret it. For the next AC game I will definitely not buy on day 1 and I will be extra cautios to watch a lot of post launch gameplay videos to make sure there is enough variety and customization and that the exploring and playing the game is actually rewarding, because thats what I want and what I expect from an open world RPG. And I think I am not alone.

Thats is. So what do you guys think? Do you thinks this game is rewarding for playing or not? Do you like the loot/reward system or are you dissapointed with the very limited possibillities in terms of variety and customization? Do you have the motivation for doing the side activities or you just focus on the story because the exploration isnt rewarding at all? Share your opinions please.

https://screenrant.com/assassins-creed-valhalla-microtransactions-prioritized-free-dlc-ubisoft/

I wont say much more that already was said. There is the same and will be more gear in the store for more money than in actuall game !!

There is almost none DLC or post launch content so far except for armor sets FOR MORE MONEY in the store. Compared to Odyssey its ridiculous!

Ubisoft was always milking their games with microtransactions, but I cant remember when I saw such a massive greed in any of their games recently. Its at the point that I think that with every new armor set in the helix store they are mocking the players. Evidently they didnt put a lot of armors and weapons into the base game on purpose so they can milk the players for all their money out of desperation, I can see players are desperate for some new weapons and armors because there ARE ALMOST [censored] NONE IN THE GAME. This is such a deceitful behaviour, I am so sad about how this game turned out.

Thoughts?

@sofajockey Game is good but the combat is wancky and graphichally it si not much of and improvement over Odyssey considering how much more demanding is it. And the draw distance is terrible like when you zoom with eagle and animals and grass suddenly pop in out of nowhere.

Seriously Ubisoft why even bother with AC at this point anymore? Just start a new fantasy series if you clearly want it so much I dont know but isnt AC supposed to take place in real history? Real place, real setting? Why THE HELL are we running around looking like Tyrael from Diablo, or with some tactical COD shield and gun ([censored]? ) or whatever that [censored] is, not to even mention that plate armor set Really a full plate armor in 9th century?? And lion mount I am not even commenting on that

Not only that you give us so few armors in the basic game (most of which are also ugly and over the top btw), and are trying to milk us through microtransactions, but even if I wanted to buy some set from the store there are also no [censored] options! Why the hell would I want to run around 9th century England looking like an angel or Sauron?? Instead of I dont know having option to get some uhm Viking style armor? Since is a Viking game you know? And not a fuckin Diablo or World Of Warcraft Guys are you sure which game are you even running there??

In Odyssey you had like 50 different armor types, which were all at least somehow historically accurate and fitting the time period, to choose from. In Valhalla if you want at least somehow fit in and not look like a complete idiot you have options from like 3-4 armors Really great variability in such a massive game

I mean who even buys this stuff? Who even wants it? Who are you trying to please?

Man I am so angry, I was so optimistic after Origins and Odyssey, I thought that the changes made to the franchise were really good and it was going in the right direction, and then you completely DESTROY it with this nonsense BS of a game, what the hell is this even? I cant even desribe how dissapointed I am with this game, I hope next AC is going back into Origins, Odyssey path or this series is completely death.

Montreal stop ruining our beloved franchise !!!! And never do any other AC game again please !!

You know I am gonna write here just one last post.

I am really sad how Valhalla turned out, and it is because I generally love Ubisoft games. Yes I know that it is somehow controversial company, which many players dont like, I would even say many players hate. But I am not one of those people.

Yes their games being criticised for being repetitive and shallow and the story being only average etc. etc. Yes somehow it is true, Ubi games are very simillar, whenewer it is AC or Far Cry, Watch Dogs, Division or Ghost Recon and others, yes they are all adapting the simillar pattern and gameplay, yes they games tend to be repetivie and somehow only average, but there is some big plus some big upside and big selling point those game has, and that is the open world element. Their worlds are beuatiful, large, detailed, and full of possibilities, options, rewards and customization. Doesnt matter if it is a latest AC games, Ghost Recon, Division, Watch Dogs or others. their games always had this one big thing which kept you playing them and enjoy them to the fullest even though their stories and gameplay was somehow average. You know they always managed to make their games in a way that even if the story, gameplay or mechanichs wasnt something new or groundbreaking, the game was always a big fun and you can easily spend tens even hundrets hours in their games, especially their lates AC games. And it was that their games were rewarding and fun to explore.

But sadly this is not the feeling I have with Valhalla, I am woried and I think that the game was stripped of its core mechanics of the thing what makes Ubi games so great and fun, and it is the general feeling from the world, from its exploration and design. You know they alway manage to somehow make the world and its exploration meaninfull and rewarding, there was always enough weapons/armors or general loot to make the game exciting and fun even when you did the same thing 30th time over again. And that is something what Valhalla really misses. Because if you want it or not after the while even their side activities which tend to be uniqe and diverse at first becomes really repetitive and boring, but instead of other Ubi games in Valhalla you dont have that "loot factor" if I say it like that, you know that thing what keeps you excited even though you are doing basically the same thing over and over again. That was the thing what made Ubi games always so great in past few years.

In Valhalla they went with minimum almost none loot or rewards and they thought that they can drag the game heavily on the story. But it just dont work, sadly the story and generally all the side stories are just ok, they are not bad, but they are also not great enough for story being the only reward you get for exploration and playing the game. And when the game lacks the Ubi core game design which was always a plenty of items/gear/rewards for playing the game, it makes Valhalla somehow a drop out game. A game which you wont even finish or maybe only the main story just to know how it played out, but not the game what you play multiple times, or the game where you explore every corner of the map and spend hundrets of hours in it, because the world and the content outside the story is basically empty and not interesting enough to play. You just dont get that vibe that joy or drive which makes you explore and play the game even after the story is finished,

I wrote a lot of criticism about this game here, and its because I am a big fan of Ubi games, especially the AC games, which is one of my most favourite gaming series of all time. And because of that I am really sad, angry, and dissapointed how this game turned out, because it breaks all the things and misses all the things whats great about Ubi games, seriously I think it is their worst game they made in last five years maybe even more, and it pains me really much because after Origins and Odyssey I was so sure that Valhalla will be perfect that it will be THE next step you know, the greatest of the series, but I am nothing but dissapointed, and that comes from a big fan of Ubi games,I am so sorry if I was overreacting or being too critic in previous posts, but it is mostly because I am really dissapointed and angy, I sadly have to say that I was never that dissapointed with Ubisoft game ever Thats all.

I just killed a Zealot ... I took me like 10 freakin minutes on hard cause they are really tough, and what did I get?? Absolutelly nothing, just WHY? WHY would I waste time killing this guys if I dont get literally anything for killing them? This game is so [censored] up when it comes to rewards.

Zealots and Order - What do you actually get for killing them? Why bother? Why dont you get at leats like 2 armor set for killing all zealots and order members? Just jest get some stupid dialog yeah man thats what you want after you spend so much time killing the tough guy.

Roman Artefacts - Great oportunity to give us some Roman themed armor set, for returning the mask ... what we get instead?? Stupid statues which are absolutelly uselless .. again why??

Legendary Animals - Other totally tough and time consuming fights and what you get? Two or three weapons and thats all .. yeah at least here you get some weapons but why not some hunter themed set also ... why the hell I would rather get a stupid tattoo which I cant even see on my character for such a tough fight then a piece of armor?? Who though this was a good idea ?

Standing stones - [censored] is that ... you spend 5 minutes trying to get the stupid symbols in order and what you get ? 1 skill point ... Seriously ONE ????? ONE?? You get two for every level and there are like 300 of them so you basically level up every ten minutes ... this has absolutely no value as a reward what so ever ... why even bother doing this ??

Boss fights - this is like RPG 101 .. when you kill a boss you get a reward .. yet this is not the case in this game ... most of times you get absolutelly nothing for killing bosses ... why even bother with the fight ?? Just skip it and show me the cutscene and be done with it ...

Treasure maps - Instead of gear you get a ship design lol ... why who would rather get ship design instead of piece of gear???

Tattooes - We have dozens of tattooes designs to put on every part of our body, yet we dont have any armors with exposed chest or arms ... other absolutelly unlogical and stupid decision ...

Those are just a few examples where the game fails terribly in terms of rewarding the player for exploration and just playing the game. There is simply no motivation for doing anything in this game except for the strory. I watched a lot of gameplay vids before release and in one devs said there would be less gear then in Odyssey but more uniqe. So I thought ok, I dont have to trip over gear on every corner if there be less ger and harder to find I am ok with that. But I never thought that less gear mean almost NONE. I thought less mean like 30 armor sets nicely placed around the world as treasures and as rewards for playing the game and exploring. 10 armors of which most you just find in chests around the world is just not enough, it is a joke and a complete destruction of the game for those who likes the most basic RPG element there is.

Why would you want tattooes, hairstyles and settlement cosmetics as a reward for playing a game more then new gear? Who the hell thought this was a good idea? You cant even see your tattooes, you dont spend hours standing in your settlement looking at decorations, what you do is playing the game with your character and use and see his armor/gear. In the most importatn area where the variety and customization should be biggest there is close to none in this game.

Citation of one of the in game hints during loading screens "World of Assassins Creed Valhalla is massive and full of interesting items and opportunities. Take your time and explore the wilderness to find new locations and uniqe rewards" Ubisoft care to tell me where are all those interesting items and uniqe rewards? Because I explored a lot and failed to find any items at all ... after 25 hours of exploring I have two sets of armor and 11 weapons in my inventory ... This is a lot to you??? 10 armor sets is a lot to you??? Why are you lying to us ... exploring in this game is absolutelly pointless.

I know it is too late for Valhalla and its sad, because this game had so much potential in terms of exploration and all is wasted by poor decisions. But for the next AC please try to find some compromises, some middle ground between Odyssey and Valhalla ... yes we dont need to find new gear every five minutes .. but there must be a good variety of it, exploration must be rewarding, 10 armor sets is not even close to enough for such a massive game. I am so dissapointed because I was so hyped for this game, I coudlnt wait to explore all of the Viking era England, but now I just play the story and do very little of exploring, when there is no gear as a rewards I just dont have the motivation. I know that for a lot of people this is not an issue, but there is a reason why so many people loved Odyssey and its loot system, it is cause its rewarding and it makes you to keep playing the even after you completed the story and the side missions. And for all those you just take any enjoyment from playing the game beside the story.

I bought all Origins, Odyssey and Vallhala on day 1. With Origins and Odyssey I had a blast it with and never regretted that I bought the games for a full price. But with Valhalla I must say I regret it. For the next AC game I will definitely not buy on day 1 and I will be extra cautios to watch a lot of post launch gameplay videos to make sure there is enough variety and customization and that the exploring and playing the game is actually rewarding, because thats what I want and what I expect from an open world RPG. And I think I am not alone.

@mirmidonas74 Yeah they tricked us really good on this one, all the pre release gameplay videos and all the information about the game before it was released looked great. So I can understand the massive dissapoinment of many players with the final product. I am one of them.

@dbgager OMG stop defending this game in every post! Random thrash [censored]??? We dont want the gear for the stats, but for the customization for the variety, for the exploration to actually be rewarding ... you ever played an open world game before??? Good amount of different gear is like the first rule in an open world RPG ... this is not and action RPG ist open world like Witcher 3 or Skyrim etc. In Origins and Odyssey they get that and they gave us a good amount of different armors and weapons to choose from, cause thats just the first thing you make sure of when you make a OPEN WORLD RPG, that there is enough loot to keep players excited and wanting to explore and do every side activity in the game even after hundrets of hours. I mean what will you do when you finish the story here? Why to do the side activities? Just to hear some NPC dialog and thats it? Are you serious???

I dont know why we still dont have an graphics option in nowadays games to crank up the grass draw distance if our PC can handle it. Same fo Valhalla I mean look at this: https://ibb.co/ZSChyZG

Its captured at PC on Ultra everything maxed out, yet the grass draw distance is as bas as was for example in Skyrim and thats a game released 9 years ago, its really embarassing in a 2020 game to have grass growing from the ground 20 meters around the player.

@klauskniffler I just loaded up Odyssey, there are close to 70! yeah 70! different armor styles in the game and thats not counting store sets and some armors which do not appear in the transmog menu untill you find them so there is even more. Compared to that Valhalla is a pathetic joke. There are historically accurate armors, there are some barbarian styled armors, some eastern (persian) styled armors, some more fantasy/kickass looking armors, there is just so much variety and customization in the game its sad when you see what Valhalla offers us in comparison.

Oh well I guess I am back at playing Odyssey until Cyberpunk comes out. Droping Valhalla for now, maybe will try it later if some serious changes come, or if not I guess I will pass to next AC (lets hope a much better one)

@torfinr I just cant understand how people can even like this ... I guess I am too old.

@katzenkrimis71 But the problem is they are not giving you enough options if you want to look normal and fit in the game in the first place, thats the huge difference between Valhalla and Odyssey.

Yeah in Odyssey and also in Origins, there were also a lot of crazy, fantasy outfits in the store, I always hated then even in those games, but I tolerated them because the game was offering me a lot of options for looking normal in the base game, just look how many grounded at least somehow historically accurate armors are in Odyssey, maybe 40-50? And now look at Valhalla there is like what 10-11 armor sets in the base game? And even most of those are looking over the top and out of place, all shiny and gold. So you are stuck with like 3-4 maybe and a bunch of high fantasy [censored] in the store. Thats what pisses me off the most.

@torfinr Couldn agree more, its made for Fortnite generation, everything must be cool and crazy and all over the top, otherwise its boring. Its not only the armors, but also lot of those "funny" side activites, its terrible, really again I cant stress enough how dissapointed I am with this game.

Seriously Ubisoft why even bother with AC at this point anymore? Just start a new fantasy series if you clearly want it so much I dont know but isnt AC supposed to take place in real history? Real place, real setting? Why THE HELL are we running around looking like Tyrael from Diablo, or with some tactical COD shield and gun ([censored]? ) or whatever that [censored] is, not to even mention that plate armor set Really a full plate armor in 9th century?? And lion mount I am not even commenting on that

Not only that you give us so few armors in the basic game (most of which are also ugly and over the top btw), and are trying to milk us through microtransactions, but even if I wanted to buy some set from the store there are also no [censored] options! Why the hell would I want to run around 9th century England looking like an angel or Sauron?? Instead of I dont know having option to get some uhm Viking style armor? Since is a Viking game you know? And not a fuckin Diablo or World Of Warcraft Guys are you sure which game are you even running there??

In Odyssey you had like 50 different armor types, which were all at least somehow historically accurate and fitting the time period, to choose from. In Valhalla if you want at least somehow fit in and not look like a complete idiot you have options from like 3-4 armors Really great variability in such a massive game

I mean who even buys this stuff? Who even wants it? Who are you trying to please?

Man I am so angry, I was so optimistic after Origins and Odyssey, I thought that the changes made to the franchise were really good and it was going in the right direction, and then you completely DESTROY it with this nonsense BS of a game, what the hell is this even? I cant even desribe how dissapointed I am with this game, I hope next AC is going back into Origins, Odyssey path or this series is completely death.

Montreal stop ruining our beloved franchise !!!! And never do any other AC game again please !!

@kormac67 Timed contetn has no place in a SINGLE PLAYER game .. when you buy a single player game and a season pass on top of that you must be able to play all the content for that game available at the moment and not to wait for it for another six months or so when it comes back into the mix

Give us some official response finally!! You really think we didnt notice? You really think you can do this??

And you people who buys this [censored] ... WAKE THE [censored] UP ALREADY!!!! Dont support it, if you dont stand against it it will get worse and worse, realize finally that Ubisoft is taking you for the complete fools.

This is a new low even for Ubisoft a new low and it could be possibly considered a criminal act at this point.

OK its unfair to blame this on the entire Ubi .. but Montreal really went to [censored] ... Ubisoft start controling you own teams ffs what is Montreal doing nowadays and how they are treating the players that could really destroy any reputation you still got!

Please no more AC games from the fuckin Motreal, they are completely done.

@yesin069 Lol look at you trashing Odyssey yet praising Valhalla the least historically accurate and AC game ever ... just because there is a one shot stealth kill and two dudes in assassin suits doesnt mean this game is close being an AC game

@budyll Yeah you dont ... the game can look gorgerous at times I can give them that ... but in certain situation like dusk/dawn, cloudy weather, you know when there is not much ligting effects going on it looks like a 2014 game at best.

What you can try is some reshade to at least correct the Valhalla awful colour palette something like this for example: https://www.nexusmods.com/assassinscreedvalhalla/mods/9/

Also using reshade smartsharpening effect will help a bit.

That sadly is how the game looks ... in that exact scene I also didnt believe my own eyes how awfull the game look. And as you I played on everything maxed out ... issue with Valhalla is that the game can look really beautifull, but most of that beauty is just very well placed lighting. When you start to examine the game graphics more closely you will see all its low res textures, terrible low res LOD, terrible draw distance, especialy of foliage etc. etc. I think there is the whole post about the game looking ugly here on forums.

@b00msie Yeah if only Ubi showed some effort in improving the game, they dont even respond on anything here on forums unless it is something completely stupid and irrelevant. After three months only effort they shown is towards the helix store. So I dont blame people for their negativity, when you see this complete lack of interest from Ubi side.