Recently with the US speed tour update we got some quality of life improvements. Which was great to see. What we got was awesome, especially the Parts Quick Swap. Yet since its so rare that we get these changes theres still alot more needed in game. I could make a whole list, but right now theres just one very minor thing that needs to be changed. Its been a thing for over 2 years now, its been mentioned before and also included on the community player feedback surveys.

And its not even an addition. In fact its the complete opposite. Its the eradication of a completely useless step/screen/menu that is essentially completely unnecessary.

As stated in the title of this topic, the Quality of Life change in question is: Please Remove the Summit Vehicle Selection screen that appears upon restarting a Summit event.

Obviously the screen is needed when you first click on the event and select your vehicle, but after that is literally useless and is backwards game design. The whole point of the Summit is for players to get the best score/time in events. Wether its newer players trying to get into platinum or top players fighting for the best scores, Summit events involve alot of restarting for most players. And theres zero reason why we cant restart immdiately like in regular PVE events outside the summit.

Just to fully simplify what i am asking for: When I restart a Summit Event, it should be exactly the same as a PVE non Summit Event. Retry --> Load Screen --> Event Starts Straight into 3,2,1. There should NOT be a screen asking me to select my vehicle again.

The vehicle selection screen simply shouldnt exist for a number of reasons. Ill go over these reasons now.



1. The Summit Vehicle Selection screen directly conflicts with the way this whole game works and was designed in regards to progression, car upgrades, ect.

What i mean by that is, essentially every single event in this game requires specific parts, aka a specific legendary set and affixes to get the best score. Wether it be NC Pure/Pump for races, Drift sets, Score Sets for MT and AB, Drag Sets, Specific event sets like Muddy or Tricky ect. Any summit event requires a car to have a specific set, or at least parts with desired affixes on it on it. Which is fine. The summit gave us a reason to get all these sets and maximise them to use. Thats ok.

But the fact this is part of the game, and the parts we have on our cars are so very important, completely removes the reason for having a vehicles select screen interupt our gameplay upon restart.

The only thing this screen does is allow us to choose vehicles. We cant swap parts or anything. So why would we want to change to a different vehicle that doesnt have the parts we need on it? On the low chance a player wanted to change vehicles (which is basically NEVER the case regardless, but ill get to that later) , the vehicle they wanted to change to wont have the parts they need on it anyway. So they will have to back out of the Summit to equip them. And then re enter to use a different vehicle. This alone is enough to warrant the removal of this screen.

Theres simply no reason to want to change vehicles purely from a parts perspective. The correct parts and affixes literally make or break your summit score to the point that players with all the sets they need basically dont have to try and can get plat easy. Vs those without the sets struggling even with it being a heck of a lot easier now.

Parts are far too important in this game to warrant having screen to change vehicles and as a result lose those parts.

2. Parts aside, 99% of the time there is zero reason to change vehicle. And doing so would be detrimental.

Simple fact is, no matter what event or discipline it is, one vehicle will be the best. Even if others are close, theres one that the majority will stick to.

Players will select that vehicle (and as said, put all the right parts on it) and that is what they are using.

Its very very unlikely they will elect to change to slower vehicle and want to use this screen to do so.

If for whatever reason they do decide to change, as there are some occasions that multiple vehicles can be useful, they still have to leave the summit, tune it, and swap their parts over. So again, WHY have a screen to select the vehicle, EVERY time we restart the event.


3. Changing vehicle resets players feel for event.

Its not just the fact that swapping to a different car would be likely slower. Also, over time redoing an event players get used to the vehicle, how it handles, the event itself and how to drive it on that event. Swapping to another vehicle would completely reset that and waste alot of time. When we contiunally restart an event we get better an better an learn braking zones, how to take corners, when to use nitro ect. However this is all different for every vehicle. So changing to a new one geta rid of that mental muscle memory. Theres very small reason to do it.

4. Specific Summit Events where its more of an annoyance then others.

Whilst the screen itself is completely useless and annoying as it is, theres two occasions in Summits where its extra frustrating. These are: When the Summit Event Literally has a 1 vehicle restriction so you can only use one car, and Live Extrem Events.

Its common that summit events have vehicle restrictions in place. Which is great. I personally love when this is the case it makes it much more interesting than just using the fastest cars all the time.

Yet even when we literally only have one single choice of vehicle and its impossible to select anything else, we still get a screen asking us to "select" a vehicle when we restart an event. Why?? Whats the point. Even when vehicle swapping is allowed as ive explained theres no reason for it, but when its literally impossible to change vehicle we still have a vehicle select screen. Even when we dont even own the vehicle eg: its given us the Summit Platinum reward to use for the event. We still have the "Select" it every time we restart.

In addition to this we have Live Extreme Events. Which exacerbates the annoyance of this screen significantly. I think having Live Xtreme Events in The Summit is great. Having to master multiple disciplines in 1 race is a great way to push competition. But the fact we have to Reselect all 3 vehicles every time we restart is very frustrating. Again, we arent gonna randomly decide to change vehicles. And it also moves the select to the start of the list every time so even with filters on we still have to move to our car and select it. Its just a very tedious process to do every single time we restart. And its not needed at all. Im 99.5% sure this doesnt happen outside of the Summit and the game simply remembers our vehicles. Why not in Summits?




Long story short. This screen is completely unnessecary. It shouldn't be in the game.

Obviously not everyone will agree with me, despite the fact im confident most players will. I understand there may be some newer players that maybe don't have all the best sets and cars and like to experiment with different vehicles. So if this were ever to get removed i'd obviously be fully satisfied with the OPTION to disable it, for the players (what i beleive to be the minority) that use this screen to change their vehicle.

If you agree with this change please respond below with your thoughts. If you have any other reasons why this screen is a bad thing to have please share. For me it just has zero place. The game is designed in a way that directly conflicts with its existence.

To conclude. To reiterate what i want clearly. Summit events should immedtiately restart if we select retry, and we should not have to select our vehicle every time we do.

I know this was kinda long but i wanted to give proper reason and explain why such a simple thing is quite significant. Thanks.


-Yuggle

As we know The Crew 2 is In need of many QOL improvements. With the first US Speed Tour update, we got some awesome QOL changes, which was great to see. And although we don’t know what’s next (This current Motorpass was the last confirmed one we know of so far), hopefully we see some more.

One of the aspects of the game that’s in the most desperate need of QOL, is the HQ Mailbox. The whole system in general could use a complete overhaul. There’s many changes needed here such as a scrap all button, auto scrapping, filters eg: scrap all non golds, and much more. I was going to do a full topic outlining each change in detail and their benefit. But I will leave that for another day. Right now there is one change that I believe is absolutely necessary, and is the reason I am making this post.
It has been suggested before, and there are a number of reasons it would be a significant improvement, alongside the major one that makes it almost a necessity for myself and a small portion of others.

This change being: Showing the Affixes and Set Bonuses on the parts within the HQ Mailbox.

Now, this change would have many benefits and has been suggested before. And I will detail this below. But first and foremost, what made me raise this issue is that it’s also currently an accessibility issue.

I’m Colour-blind. Just quick for anyone reading that’s unsure what that means, there are many variations, but in general it’s an issue of differentiation. Different shades of colours and also different colours that happen to be close, can be very difficult to tell  or simply indistinguishable from one another. Eg: Blue/Purple, Yellow/Light Green, Red/Green/Brown. Pink/Grey etc. are ones I struggle with personally. For example, I’ve had to send a screenshot to a friend of my Huracan to make sure I painted it yellow and not light green lol.

Back to the HQ Mailbox.

Take this screenshot I took in game recently




For most of you, you will be able to look at that picture and tell there are 5 Green Parts and 11 Gold parts in my Mailbox.
I couldn’t. To me, every single part looks the same colour. I will say In this specific picture the 4 280 parts that have an intake on stick out as yellow to me and I can usually tell those ones. But I had to ask others to tell me what parts were green and gold because I genuinely had no idea. Shout out to the lovely people in the Crew 2 Discord for being so helpful despite me asking multiple times since its taken me a while to be bothered to write this up lol.

But I was genuinely surprised when I was told there were 11 Gold Parts here and 5 Greens, If you asked me I’d say outside of those 4 parts all of them would be green but that was simply a total guess. Turns out a good portion are gold and I would possibly scrap them.

So for me, currently, I have no option but to collect every single green or gold part to risk not accidentally scrapping parts I want. Especially lately since we are getting so many boosted parts in Summits which go where? Straight to the mailbox.

Disclaimer, it was pointed out to me that there are actually different pictures for each rarity which can be used to tell them apart. Still defeats the point. We shouldn’t have to memorise all of them when there’s a very simple fix for this issue.

I’m also not trying to make developers cater specifically to myself and what admit is a small group of players. The simple change I put forward will not just help myself and other Colour-blind players, but will also be a significant benefit to all players.

This change being, allowing us to able to see the set bonus and affixes on the parts, on this screen when the mailbox is open. Here is a very rough mock up I just made on my phone, I wasn’t planning on doing this originally and just did then so it’s a bit rough and has some repeated parts, but I thought it would be good to show exactly what I want. The fact I simply took zoomed in screenshots of pre-existing parts on vehicles to make the boxes shows that this change would be simple to design, there's no new UI needed, the affixes and set bonus can be put where they already are on the parts in other menus. But the benefits are huge.



For myself, this would entirely fix the issue. It doesn’t matter if I can’t see what colours the parts are if I can instantly see what part each is via the affixes.

Alongside making the game more accessible for colour-blind players this is also a huge benefit to everyone for a number of reasons.
-         Allowing players to scrap any part with a set bonus they don’t want if they are trying to complete a certain set
-         Significantly reducing the risk of scrapping boosted parts
-         Very easily being able to identify and collect the parts they do want before scrapping all the rest (with a scrap all button, but that’s another discussion)

Please post your thoughts below and make your voice heard if you want this change also. As said Im very aware of all the other improvements the Mailbox needs, but that can be discussed in the future. I find IVT like to work with small changes as opposed to huge reworks. So if we could keep this topic purely focused around this change that would be appreciated.


Thanks, Yuggle

 

As we know The Crew 2 is In need of many QOL improvements. With the first US Speed Tour update, we got some awesome QOL changes, which was great to see. And although we don’t know what’s next (This current Motorpass was the last confirmed one we know of so far), hopefully we see some more.

One of the aspects of the game that’s in the most desperate need of QOL, is the HQ Mailbox. The whole system in general could use a complete overhaul. There’s many changes needed here such as a scrap all button, auto scrapping, filters eg: scrap all non golds, and much more. I was going to do a full topic outlining each change in detail and their benefit. But I will leave that for another day. Right now there is one change that I believe is absolutely necessary, and is the reason I am making this post.
It has been suggested before, and there are a number of reasons it would be a significant improvement, alongside the major one that makes it almost a necessity for myself and a small portion of others.

This change being: Showing the Affixes and Set Bonuses on the parts within the HQ Mailbox.

Now, this change would have many benefits and has been suggested before. And I will detail this below. But first and foremost, what made me raise this issue is that it’s also currently an accessibility issue.

I’m Colour-blind. Just quick for anyone reading that’s unsure what that means, there are many variations, but in general it’s an issue of differentiation. Different shades of colours and also different colours that happen to be close, can be very difficult to tell  or simply indistinguishable from one another. Eg: Blue/Purple, Yellow/Light Green, Red/Green/Brown. Pink/Grey etc. are ones I struggle with personally. For example, I’ve had to send a screenshot to a friend of my Huracan to make sure I painted it yellow and not light green lol.

Back to the HQ Mailbox.

Take this screenshot I took in game recently




For most of you, you will be able to look at that picture and tell there are 5 Green Parts and 11 Gold parts in my Mailbox.
I couldn’t. To me, every single part looks the same colour. I will say In this specific picture the 4 280 parts that have an intake on stick out as yellow to me and I can usually tell those ones. But I had to ask others to tell me what parts were green and gold because I genuinely had no idea. Shout out to the lovely people in the Crew 2 Discord for being so helpful despite me asking multiple times since its taken me a while to be bothered to write this up lol.

But I was genuinely surprised when I was told there were 11 Gold Parts here and 5 Greens, If you asked me I’d say outside of those 4 parts all of them would be green but that was simply a total guess. Turns out a good portion are gold and I would possibly scrap them.

So for me, currently, I have no option but to collect every single green or gold part to risk not accidentally scrapping parts I want. Especially lately since we are getting so many boosted parts in Summits which go where? Straight to the mailbox.

Disclaimer, it was pointed out to me that there are actually different pictures for each rarity which can be used to tell them apart. Still defeats the point. We shouldn’t have to memorise all of them when there’s a very simple fix for this issue.

I’m also not trying to make developers cater specifically to myself and what admit is a small group of players. The simple change I put forward will not just help myself and other Colour-blind players, but will also be a significant benefit to all players.

This change being, allowing us to able to see the set bonus and affixes on the parts, on this screen when the mailbox is open. Here is a very rough mock up I just made on my phone, I wasn’t planning on doing this originally and just did then so it’s a bit rough and has some repeated parts, but I thought it would be good to show exactly what I want. The fact I simply took zoomed in screenshots of pre-existing parts on vehicles to make the boxes shows that this change would be simple to design, there's no new UI needed, the affixes and set bonus can be put where they already are on the parts in other menus. But the benefits are huge.



For myself, this would entirely fix the issue. It doesn’t matter if I can’t see what colours the parts are if I can instantly see what part each is via the affixes.

Alongside making the game more accessible for colour-blind players this is also a huge benefit to everyone for a number of reasons.
-         Allowing players to scrap any part with a set bonus they don’t want if they are trying to complete a certain set
-         Significantly reducing the risk of scrapping boosted parts
-         Very easily being able to identify and collect the parts they do want before scrapping all the rest (with a scrap all button, but that’s another discussion)

Please post your thoughts below and make your voice heard if you want this change also. As said Im very aware of all the other improvements the Mailbox needs, but that can be discussed in the future. I find IVT like to work with small changes as opposed to huge reworks. So if we could keep this topic purely focused around this change that would be appreciated.


Thanks, Yuggle

 

@luckysevenchamp

To add a little more information.

As far as I know, (not 100% sure because as you've probably figured due to the fact your asking, this game doesnt explain alot of things), its down to a Winstreak.

If you keep winning, which according to PVP is simply top half, you will get this points bonus. Stay on a winstreak and keep it. Again not exactly sure but pretty sure thats what it is.

Recently with the US speed tour update we got some quality of life improvements. Which was great to see. What we got was awesome, especially the Parts Quick Swap. Yet since its so rare that we get these changes theres still alot more needed in game. I could make a whole list, but right now theres just one very minor thing that needs to be changed. Its been a thing for over 2 years now, its been mentioned before and also included on the community player feedback surveys.

And its not even an addition. In fact its the complete opposite. Its the eradication of a completely useless step/screen/menu that is essentially completely unnecessary.

As stated in the title of this topic, the Quality of Life change in question is: Please Remove the Summit Vehicle Selection screen that appears upon restarting a Summit event.

Obviously the screen is needed when you first click on the event and select your vehicle, but after that is literally useless and is backwards game design. The whole point of the Summit is for players to get the best score/time in events. Wether its newer players trying to get into platinum or top players fighting for the best scores, Summit events involve alot of restarting for most players. And theres zero reason why we cant restart immdiately like in regular PVE events outside the summit.

Just to fully simplify what i am asking for: When I restart a Summit Event, it should be exactly the same as a PVE non Summit Event. Retry --> Load Screen --> Event Starts Straight into 3,2,1. There should NOT be a screen asking me to select my vehicle again.

The vehicle selection screen simply shouldnt exist for a number of reasons. Ill go over these reasons now.



1. The Summit Vehicle Selection screen directly conflicts with the way this whole game works and was designed in regards to progression, car upgrades, ect.

What i mean by that is, essentially every single event in this game requires specific parts, aka a specific legendary set and affixes to get the best score. Wether it be NC Pure/Pump for races, Drift sets, Score Sets for MT and AB, Drag Sets, Specific event sets like Muddy or Tricky ect. Any summit event requires a car to have a specific set, or at least parts with desired affixes on it on it. Which is fine. The summit gave us a reason to get all these sets and maximise them to use. Thats ok.

But the fact this is part of the game, and the parts we have on our cars are so very important, completely removes the reason for having a vehicles select screen interupt our gameplay upon restart.

The only thing this screen does is allow us to choose vehicles. We cant swap parts or anything. So why would we want to change to a different vehicle that doesnt have the parts we need on it? On the low chance a player wanted to change vehicles (which is basically NEVER the case regardless, but ill get to that later) , the vehicle they wanted to change to wont have the parts they need on it anyway. So they will have to back out of the Summit to equip them. And then re enter to use a different vehicle. This alone is enough to warrant the removal of this screen.

Theres simply no reason to want to change vehicles purely from a parts perspective. The correct parts and affixes literally make or break your summit score to the point that players with all the sets they need basically dont have to try and can get plat easy. Vs those without the sets struggling even with it being a heck of a lot easier now.

Parts are far too important in this game to warrant having screen to change vehicles and as a result lose those parts.

2. Parts aside, 99% of the time there is zero reason to change vehicle. And doing so would be detrimental.

Simple fact is, no matter what event or discipline it is, one vehicle will be the best. Even if others are close, theres one that the majority will stick to.

Players will select that vehicle (and as said, put all the right parts on it) and that is what they are using.

Its very very unlikely they will elect to change to slower vehicle and want to use this screen to do so.

If for whatever reason they do decide to change, as there are some occasions that multiple vehicles can be useful, they still have to leave the summit, tune it, and swap their parts over. So again, WHY have a screen to select the vehicle, EVERY time we restart the event.


3. Changing vehicle resets players feel for event.

Its not just the fact that swapping to a different car would be likely slower. Also, over time redoing an event players get used to the vehicle, how it handles, the event itself and how to drive it on that event. Swapping to another vehicle would completely reset that and waste alot of time. When we contiunally restart an event we get better an better an learn braking zones, how to take corners, when to use nitro ect. However this is all different for every vehicle. So changing to a new one geta rid of that mental muscle memory. Theres very small reason to do it.

4. Specific Summit Events where its more of an annoyance then others.

Whilst the screen itself is completely useless and annoying as it is, theres two occasions in Summits where its extra frustrating. These are: When the Summit Event Literally has a 1 vehicle restriction so you can only use one car, and Live Extrem Events.

Its common that summit events have vehicle restrictions in place. Which is great. I personally love when this is the case it makes it much more interesting than just using the fastest cars all the time.

Yet even when we literally only have one single choice of vehicle and its impossible to select anything else, we still get a screen asking us to "select" a vehicle when we restart an event. Why?? Whats the point. Even when vehicle swapping is allowed as ive explained theres no reason for it, but when its literally impossible to change vehicle we still have a vehicle select screen. Even when we dont even own the vehicle eg: its given us the Summit Platinum reward to use for the event. We still have the "Select" it every time we restart.

In addition to this we have Live Extreme Events. Which exacerbates the annoyance of this screen significantly. I think having Live Xtreme Events in The Summit is great. Having to master multiple disciplines in 1 race is a great way to push competition. But the fact we have to Reselect all 3 vehicles every time we restart is very frustrating. Again, we arent gonna randomly decide to change vehicles. And it also moves the select to the start of the list every time so even with filters on we still have to move to our car and select it. Its just a very tedious process to do every single time we restart. And its not needed at all. Im 99.5% sure this doesnt happen outside of the Summit and the game simply remembers our vehicles. Why not in Summits?




Long story short. This screen is completely unnessecary. It shouldn't be in the game.

Obviously not everyone will agree with me, despite the fact im confident most players will. I understand there may be some newer players that maybe don't have all the best sets and cars and like to experiment with different vehicles. So if this were ever to get removed i'd obviously be fully satisfied with the OPTION to disable it, for the players (what i beleive to be the minority) that use this screen to change their vehicle.

If you agree with this change please respond below with your thoughts. If you have any other reasons why this screen is a bad thing to have please share. For me it just has zero place. The game is designed in a way that directly conflicts with its existence.

To conclude. To reiterate what i want clearly. Summit events should immedtiately restart if we select retry, and we should not have to select our vehicle every time we do.

I know this was kinda long but i wanted to give proper reason and explain why such a simple thing is quite significant. Thanks.


-Yuggle